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Post by Bernard Kron on Dec 21, 2016 15:38:03 GMT -5
The circle track oriented Scale Racecar Lobby board has a whole section devoted to The Early Years featuring a lot of Jalopy style stock-based dirt track cars. While perusing its many fine models I got to thinking about doing a 50’s era middle-America stock car jalopy. . I love the research part, particularly when it involves a subject like this one where I have much to learn. Thus began my obligatory web-cruise which culminated in finding this terrific web site chronicling the JayCee Speedway in Larned, Kansas, a 1/4 mile track that was active in the 1950's: winfield.50megs.com/tripod/Larned/Larned_Speedway.htm I was particularly inspired by this picture: That is one sanitary jalopy. Beautifully constructed and ready on race day morning, Sunday, April 27th, 1958. Pictured are the driver, Gene Coffman, and the car's owner and sponsor, Mrs. Clarice Palmer. One thing that has impressed me is the very high level of construction quality on many of these cars. You only appreciate it if they were fortunate enough to be photographed before being raced. Afterwards their condition tended to disguise the fact! The rules at Larned appear to restrict motors and suspension to stock or mild hop ups as far as I can tell. It reminded me that many moons ago Dave Zinn included a resin Hendrix '32 Ford Fordor based on the AMT Deuces as a bonus gift in a parts swap I did with him. The perfect base for my first Jalopy build. The mechanicals will come from the AMT '32 Ford Phaeton kit. I'm guessing the wheels and the upper part of the body were white, the beltline some dark color and the lower body a light color, but not white. Probably yellow. I'm planning on doing my car with a white upper, green beltline and yellow lower. I’ll do homemade decals with sponsor names and numbers. It won’t be a strict replica but the inspiration will be clear. First off, probably very much like was done at the time, I cut open the roof and cut up the AMT ’32 Ford Phaeton interior bucket to get my bearing on space and dimension issues. The interior will get some panel detail at a later stage. Then I roughed in the roll cage to the basic AMT Deuce chassis. It’s .010 styrene rod. It's clear these cars were built for some very rough driving. Besides open roofs, most of the Larned cars had cutaway passenger side doors for easy exit in the inevitable crash. For the same reason I noticed there's generally no diagonal bracing across the top of the roll cage, most likely to allow the driver to readily crawl out if the car got dumped on its side. But most cars did have side bracing tubes in the middle of the doors. The roll cage was completed accordingly. I decided to cut up the passenger side of the body and the interior bucket. The hard part was making sure the body cutout, the interior bucket cutaway, and the side brace bars all lined up. I think I pulled it off. I'm wrestling with the front nerf bars (bully bars?) right now. That and the bracing for the ’40 Ford radiator and hood panel will be the next major challenge. After that building the motor and setting up the chassis should be pretty straight forward. Once everything is trial fit and ship-shape it’ll be time for paint and graphics. Things are moving fairly quickly but I don’t know if this will be done in time to be my final 2016 build. Thanx for lookin’, B.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 17:09:10 GMT -5
Liking this one a lot B. Looks good and authentic so far. I'll be watching progress for sure.....big fan of vintage short trackers that only turn left! You going to simulate that paint overspray on the tires?
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Post by Bernard Kron on Dec 21, 2016 18:36:31 GMT -5
Liking this one a lot B. Looks good and authentic so far. I'll be watching progress for sure.....big fan of vintage short trackers that only turn left! You going to simulate that paint overspray on the tires? Thanks Ron. I don't think I can simulate the overspray because I don't have an airbrush setup. I don't think I could control it with a rattle can.
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Post by spex84 on Dec 22, 2016 0:39:03 GMT -5
Somebody get Bernard an airbrush!
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Post by dodgefever on Dec 22, 2016 3:41:36 GMT -5
Liking this one a lot B. Looks good and authentic so far. I'll be watching progress for sure.....big fan of vintage short trackers that only turn left! You going to simulate that paint overspray on the tires? Thanks Ron. I don't think I can simulate the overspray because I don't have an airbrush setup. I don't think I could control it with a rattle can. You might be able to create the overspray effect by making a mask (or using a circle template) and spacing it away from the tyre maybe 1/8", then dust it with the spray can from a distance so you don't get a hard edge. I'd be tempted to do away with the interior tub on such an exposed build. It adds a lot of thickness to the door cutout. Have you considered making a full width floor and gluing door structure pieces to the inside of the body?
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Post by Bernard Kron on Dec 23, 2016 18:57:35 GMT -5
Thanks guys! I actually have an airbrush and compressor but I don’t have anywhere to spray right now. I recently freed up an area in my work room by a window to set up a spray booth but I can’t get the damn window to open! I’ll keep trying. I’m absolutely convinced airbrushing will open up whole new dimension to my modeling! ... I'd be tempted to do away with the interior tub on such an exposed build. It adds a lot of thickness to the door cutout. Have you considered making a full width floor and gluing door structure pieces to the inside of the body? In the meantime, I took Stu’s suggestion to heart and completely re-did my approach to the interior. I started by cutting out the sides of the interior buck, leaving only the firewall and cowl panels. After gluing this vestigial piece to the floor board I fabricated two curved extension pieces to fill the gap between the floorboard and the body sides. Next I made a couple of interior side panels. I researched ’32 Ford interior body structures on the web and was only able to find detailed pictures of a Phaeton shell, although I think the basic approach must be similar to the Fordor. Combining that with the structures of earlier Tudors and Fordors I came up with what should pass for some interior detail. After fabricating the side panels I epoxied them in place and then added additional strips of styrene epoxied directly to the body shell to simulate the rest of the structure. Here’s a summary of that work: I was also able to complete the front nerf bar setup. Common practice on the Larned cars was to use later series, and larger, radiators. In this case I used an AMT ’40 Ford piece and fabricated the “bully bars” from .100 styrene rod. While not quite as elaborate (and agricultural!) as some jalopies sported, this design was fairly prototypical of these cars. I also include some wire mesh between the radiator and the bars. Interestingly, the Larned cars almost never had rear nerf bars or side bars even though they had massive roll cages and front protection. Here’s some a summary of this part of the project: Now on to the suspension and motor. Then final bodywork, paint and decals. Still shooting for December ‘31st to get ‘er done… Thanx for lookin’, B.
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Post by jbwelda on Dec 23, 2016 21:26:01 GMT -5
Yeah that interior and especially the cut out door look a lot better now. I was going to suggest not using the interior panels you had but got beat to it. What you did there looks great!
jb
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Post by Dennis on Dec 27, 2016 22:42:50 GMT -5
Great project, especially with it being a seldom seen (in the scale world) Deuce Fordor. It's gonna be well worth the effort to build the inner body structure instead of the "tub". That'll look good once everything is painted and detailed. I like the radiator guard, too. I still can't get over the roll cages in these cars. Literally a box made of tubing.
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Post by Bernard Kron on Dec 27, 2016 23:31:32 GMT -5
Thanks guys. This just shows that constructive criticism/insightful observation ought always to be welcomed. Without Stu's suggestion I would probably have lamed out and kept the tub. That one change completely altered how the project looked to me.
I''ve made a good deal of progress on it since. The motor still has to be finished out and the suspension assembled but most of the paint is done and it's time to design and print decals. Here's a quick snap of where I'm at. More detail in the next couple of days. Still shooting for a 2016 completion. I hope you all had a Happy Holiday.
Great project, especially with it being a seldom seen (in the scale world) Deuce Fordor. ... I still can't get over the roll cages in these cars. Literally a box made of tubing.
Dennis, sedan body jalopies, 2- and 4-door, are sometimes called "coaches", which I think is kinda cool. This style of race car is not that familiar to me. As a boy growing up in down-state (southern) New York I did see these jalopy racers being trailered around. Funky would be an understatement, that's for sure. But as I research them now I notice that they tend to reflect the region that they're from in terms of construction techniques and materials. The SoCal circle racers of the late 40's and 50's clearly benefitted from the wartime factory boom and all the machnists, welders and pattern makers that were created. It was ground zero for race car engineering and hop up equipment and the circle track roadsters were often as sophisticated (and expensive) as a high dollar midget. By contrast, the Larned cars were very close to being stripped down stockers. No apparent hop up equipment, just totally gutted street machinery from the late 20's or 30's. It's definitely farm country and the engineering shows it. The tubing used sometimes was clearly plumbing or water pipe; not quite to the point of being constructed using threaded joints, but definitely the kind of welding you'd see in a stockyard. Very, very basic race cars. Modeling it without being corny and cartoonish is the challenge (kind of like building a realistic beater without falling into the rat-rod or rust-bucket traps). It's something the guys at Scale Racing Lobby, who are mostly circle track racers from either the South or the Northeast (i.e. New England, Upstate N.Y., Pa., Ohio and Indiana) do especially well. It's all about respecting the idiom I think.
It must have been very, very rough racing, dontcha think?
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Post by dodgefever on Dec 28, 2016 15:59:49 GMT -5
Coming on nicely. I've been finding a lot of dirt track and modified photos on Instagram, but I'm some way off getting my head round all the regional differences.
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Post by Bernard Kron on Dec 29, 2016 20:12:20 GMT -5
Thanx Stu! I’m on the home stretch now. The suspension, just the stock setup from the AMT kit, wheels and tires are painted and glued in place. The suspension is finished out in gloss and matte black and dark shades of Testors Metalizer paints. The front wheels are AMT ’40 Ford front steelies and the rears Revell ’40 Ford rears. The front tires are standard AMT Firestones and the rears are Revell ’40 Ford units with the whitewalls painted matte black. One detail you’ll notice is that I built a rear bumper after all. I had commented that Larned cars didn’t seem to run them, which struck me as odd given how heavily built up the front bars and roll cages were. Well, more careful examination of the old pictures show that the cars all did have bumpers, it’s just that they aren’t the massive structures you see at the front. So I fabricated a prototypical setup from styrene rod and strip and installed at the back of the chassis. The bodywork is painted now. The upper half is Duplicolor Wimbledon white, as are the interior and the nerf bars. The frame is painted a medium dark green, a Testors Acryl color. I’ve begun the graphics. The companies are fictional businesses from the area around the Larned track. Great Bend, Kansas is the major town in the area, about 23 miles from Larned. The graphics fonts and layout are based on photos of Larned cars. All the cars wore a number on each side and one on the rear. The layout photo below is a Photoshop mockup and final colors and fonts will be determined when I actually print the decals. Probably tomorrow. Not shown is the motor which is about done and ready for installation. It’s the Ford Flathead block from the kit with AMT ’40 Ford stock heads and intake, finished in the traditional Ford zinc chromate green. Still shooting for a 2016 completion! Thanx for lookin’, B.
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Post by scalespeedshop on Dec 29, 2016 20:20:53 GMT -5
Very interesting build as I live 20 minutes from Larned, Ks and right in the middle of Barton County.
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Post by Dennis on Dec 29, 2016 23:42:17 GMT -5
Perfect color scheme and decoration! It looks like it's from Kansas. I take it the fuel tank is mounted inside the body because a rear collision sure wouldn't do it any good.
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Post by Plowboy on Dec 30, 2016 12:50:38 GMT -5
That is looking really nice Bernard! I agree with Dennis that the color scheme is perfect! One question: why is the passenger side door window hogged out? I would've thought that the driver's window would be the one that gets enlarged for entry/exit. Was it a safety rule or something?
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Post by cturner on Dec 30, 2016 14:40:42 GMT -5
It's so the people in the stands can see the driver! LOL
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