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Post by Nitro Neil on Mar 3, 2013 7:50:50 GMT -5
I hadn't seen anyone ask this yet, so I thought I would bring it up. I know that this is stretching ility a bit, but I was hoping to get an official ruling. Would the MPC Young American FE dragster or any similar FE dragster be ? Techinically the Young American ran in 1970, but similar length FE dragsters ran in 1969. That breed of FE dragster was the last of it's kind, and once Garlits figured out how to make the rear-engine set-up work, the front-engine cars were doomed. There are a number of decal variants that are either available or in the pipeline for the Young American kit, and some of them would have run in 1969. There are currently seven EIGHT that I know of: Young American - kit decals Don Garlits Swamp Rat 12C - Slixx The Jade Grenade - Slixx Beebe and Mulligan - Slixx Howard Cam Rattler - Slixx Steve Carbone T/F - Chuck Boerner Snake's Wynns Winder - Chuck Boerner NEW ADDITION - Ray Godman's Tennesee Bo-Weevil - Chuck Boerner So, or not?
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Post by Bernard Kron on Mar 3, 2013 10:24:54 GMT -5
While we wait for a ruling, just a couple of comments.
I have posted a full length Junior fueler on TRaK without any objection. It was based on the Digger 'Cuda/ Don Schumacher Stardust car (same chassis as the Ivo FED - see below) and the only thing I did was avoid the extra wide tires and wheels that the kit comes with. This chassis specs out at an epic 7 1/2" or scale 187.5". Now it wasn't an historic replica with correct decals, etc., so it didn't crowd the pre-'70 rule. But it was most definitely very late 60's in wheelbase.
This, and other late era long wheelbase kits (i.e. the Ivo FED and its variants) make excellent donor cars for mild backdating to the slightly earlier mid-length wheelbase era (i.e. 165"-ish), IMHO the most beautiful cars of all. I haven't researched it so I don't know what decals are available for this period. Chuck Meier at Altered States Models does a fine job of supporting this period of dragster with a broad array of resin body parts. Most are based on the AMT Ivo chassis, but he supplies rear body pieces separately, and the nose pieces can be readily shortened. Or, to my eye, even better are the open rail style cars with no nose pieces...
As we get further away from the 50's (time marches on...) the early 70's begin to look more and more "traditional", at least to younger modelers. I have no problem with the '69 cutoff since my personal sweet-spot is the late 40's through early-mid 60's. But I can totally understand how things, over time, can creep forward.
Of course there are some fine pure competition car forums that support all of this (I'm an active member of one of them which has a 1980 cutoff if I recall correctly), so finding an outlet for any early 70's transgressions shouldn't be a problem. But a front -engine dragster cutoff standard is definitely not the same as a '69 year cutoff.
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Post by ChrisV on Mar 3, 2013 11:25:07 GMT -5
Tough call...
While they may technically be legit, I'm personally not too much for the long wheelbase rails, as they're really blurring the edges and making it difficult to determine, just exactly what can be considered (pre-69) traditional and not.
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Post by Nitro Neil on Mar 5, 2013 8:09:22 GMT -5
Mr. Black?
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Post by RatRod58 on Mar 24, 2013 19:01:23 GMT -5
Well, Bob didn't allow my Tommy Ivo car, so I'm guessing the answer to be no, as they are both 1970's.
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Post by RodBurNeR on Mar 24, 2013 19:05:34 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with these as long as they are 1969 or older. If it's 1970 it's too new. I am not an expert on these so like Chris, it would be "fun" to learn and study.....I will leave it at that. I don't mind learning, but hopefully you research ahead of time to the best you can.
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