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Post by afx on Mar 5, 2018 6:22:01 GMT -5
Your builds are always great Dennis but I think this might be my favorite.
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Post by dakotajohn on Mar 5, 2018 8:13:21 GMT -5
Loving it!!
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Post by jbwelda on Mar 5, 2018 19:31:00 GMT -5
I misread this then:
"The wheels I'm going to use are the Halibrand "Touring" wheels from Revell's '31 Sedan kit. I'm also using that kits small front tires and narrow M&H slicks from the Ed Roth Beatnik Bandit. These wheels actually came stock on some of the Studebaker Avanti's and was also available through Halibrand's catalog. They were a true magnesium wheel. As the wheels come out of the kit they have basic rounded center caps but originally Halibrand provided false versions of their first generation 3-bar knock offs. I will be removing the rounded caps and using the knock off's from Revell's Orange Crate which are identical to the original Halibrand parts. As you all probably expect, the wheels will also be getting stripped and paint detailed."
and thought I would add they are also in the Avanti kit, which I thought you said but turns out you meant on the real Avanti, not the kit. The funny thing is, the Avanti is an AMT kit and the Fords you cite are Revell...I wonder how well they match up with each other?
jb
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Post by Dennis on Mar 5, 2018 23:26:10 GMT -5
I misread this then: "The wheels I'm going to use are the Halibrand "Touring" wheels from Revell's '31 Sedan kit. I'm also using that kits small front tires and narrow M&H slicks from the Ed Roth Beatnik Bandit. These wheels actually came stock on some of the Studebaker Avanti's and was also available through Halibrand's catalog. They were a true magnesium wheel. As the wheels come out of the kit they have basic rounded center caps but originally Halibrand provided false versions of their first generation 3-bar knock offs. I will be removing the rounded caps and using the knock off's from Revell's Orange Crate which are identical to the original Halibrand parts. As you all probably expect, the wheels will also be getting stripped and paint detailed." and thought I would add they are also in the Avanti kit, which I thought you said but turns out you meant on the real Avanti, not the kit. The funny thing is, the Avanti is an AMT kit and the Fords you cite are Revell...I wonder how well they match up with each other? jb Got any pictures of the AMT versions? Would be interesting to see.
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Post by jbwelda on Mar 6, 2018 12:42:21 GMT -5
AMT version on the right. I have now stripped them of the bling so you can see detail better, but unfortunately no pic of them dechromed jb
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Post by Dennis on Feb 7, 2021 0:55:14 GMT -5
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Post by krassandbernie on Feb 7, 2021 1:37:42 GMT -5
I did not scroll back up to see the engine set-up you had previously; but I can honestly say I know what looks perfect when I see it..........and this IS it!
The grille is still not cutting the mustard with me though. It needs a 'T' grille; but this one is too long in the tooth and looks like you should be shoveling snow with it. I think there might be something you could possibly use in that box I just shipped out; but can't say with 100% certainty. At least give it a little more consideration.........what a chopped '26-'27 T shell would look like that mounts on top of the frame rails or a small cross member. I know it would throw off the radiator situation. Personally, I go for looks before realism; but still aim for realism as much as possible! LOL!
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Post by cturner on Feb 7, 2021 8:42:02 GMT -5
Chopped deuce grill would look really nice on that...just my thought
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Post by skip on Feb 7, 2021 10:22:38 GMT -5
I’m with Ed on this one “T” radiator shell looks better than Model A shell. (Can’t believe I agreed with Ed!! LoL! I agree with him lots more than I let on, proves he’s got good taste or sumpthin’!) Also, don’t recall if that rear section is getting cover or not, screams for some sort of tarp thingie across the back from the rear of the front seat sheet metal to the rear of the body.
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Post by robtrat on Feb 7, 2021 11:32:03 GMT -5
Dennis, you might try the chopped Deuce shell from the Tweedy Pie...I built a '27 using that one years ago and it fit very well.
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Post by krassandbernie on Feb 7, 2021 11:45:31 GMT -5
Dennis, you might try the chopped Deuce shell from the Tweedy Pie...I built a '27 using that one years ago and it fit very well. That would be 'trick' too! I think Dennis was leaning towards utilizing the hood; so that might throw a wrench in the monkey works here. Also, there is so much to the side profile of the body that it would be extremely unbalanced with a grille that is too chopped I feel. That is why I was thinking something the height of the grille in the mock up pics with whatever is hanging down below the frame lobbed off! LOL! That particular grille isn't all that appealing.......tooling wise. But, a 'T' grille still seems to be the right choice in my mind. There were a handful of them out there in various kits; so he has options.
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Post by krassandbernie on Feb 7, 2021 11:46:52 GMT -5
I’m with Ed on this one “T” radiator shell looks better than Model A shell. (Can’t believe I agreed with Ed!! LoL! I agree with him lots more than I let on, proves he’s got good taste or sumpthin’!) Also, don’t recall if that rear section is getting cover or not, screams for some sort of tarp thingie across the back from the rear of the front seat sheet metal to the rear of the body. I agree.........that you agree with me a lot! LOL! I also thought a half tarp tonneau cover was needed in the back; but didn't mention it last night.....likely because I figured it was already a given and just not in the mock up pics yet.
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Post by Dennis on Feb 7, 2021 14:18:09 GMT -5
You guys sure are opinionated!!! LOL Thanks for the feedback. A cover over the rear section with the top of the tank poking through was part of the original idea, just never got that far. Chopped deuce grill would look really nice on that...just my thought Now that I've had some time to stare at the model and soak it in I think that's the direction I'm gonna go. With the 4-banger gone I don't feel like the antiquey T shell and lights are appropriate anymore. More to come...
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Post by cturner on Feb 7, 2021 20:26:33 GMT -5
At my age...I am allowed to be opiniated! haha' I am honored that you are thinking the same!
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Post by Dennis on Feb 7, 2021 23:59:01 GMT -5
Dennis, you might try the chopped Deuce shell from the Tweedy Pie...I built a '27 using that one years ago and it fit very well. That would be 'trick' too! I think Dennis was leaning towards utilizing the hood; so that might throw a wrench in the monkey works here. Also, there is so much to the side profile of the body that it would be extremely unbalanced with a grille that is too chopped I feel. That is why I was thinking something the height of the grille in the mock up pics with whatever is hanging down below the frame lobbed off! LOL! That particular grille isn't all that appealing.......tooling wise. But, a 'T' grille still seems to be the right choice in my mind. There were a handful of them out there in various kits; so he has options. Taking everyone's feedback into consideration I played around with this thing some more today. The T shell I have been showing on it from the start is from the same kit as the body. I was trying to help make the front look low by adding a chin to it cut out from the T fenders. As I replied this morning before hitting the workbench I was thinking that a chopped Revell '32 grill was probably gonna be the answer but then after offering one up I felt that it was too heavy for the car. Probably a skinnier AMT '32 grill would work but I don't have any of those. I thought and thought and then it occurred to me to get down my box 'o Tweedy Pie T Roadster parts which still has a T shell in it. That T shell is rendered much nicer and is noticeably deeper. And, because of the way it's made it sits back over the front cross member rather than nearly hanging in front of it. All I had to do was shorten the radiator and it dropped right on. So this is it, final answer! I also didn't like the heavy offset belt drive hanging way out to the side so I replaced it with a stock top mount and was able to squeeze a little Revell '32 series alternator in front of the front carburetor. I also tweaked the mounting studs of the carbs to straighten them up as in the previous pics they were all leaning forward a bit. I think this is much, much better. Tell me what you all think now...
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