|
Post by dodgefever on Aug 30, 2017 13:09:13 GMT -5
That's looking very promising. I've never been a huge fan of these trucks - mainly that front overhang combined with the heavy grille - and I usually prefer stepside shortbeds, but this one looks just right. I saw the before pics on the MCM forum and the proportions are much better with the short box, as well as the stance.
|
|
|
Post by skip on Aug 30, 2017 23:39:48 GMT -5
This is great stuff! After spending tons of time on eBay and getting out it a whole lot of times, I added a '57 Ford SWB pick up to my last Modelhaus order! I'm totally glad I did, the price of the Modelhaus kit was right in line (as in cheaper) with what I'd been bidding on eBay. Now it's like starting with fresh minty styrene all over again. (Haven't started on this one yet.) The bodywork is essentially the same so I'm watching with great interest to see how you're doing things. I'm thinking about going with the Mac-Supercharged Y-block out of the Revell '57 Fairlane, which I've already eyeballed and it looks like the transmission tail-housing will have to be reworked to make work. If given the chance, that's the route I'd take on a full-size build, including some sort of supercharger to really stress the old Y-block out!
|
|
|
Post by Plowboy on Aug 31, 2017 11:38:36 GMT -5
The T-Bird engine will drop right in like it was made for it. I didn't put an engine in my '60. But, I did put one in my '61. I used the '61s carbs and intake along with the headers from the '56 Victoria. Some wiring and plumbing, it made a pretty nice little engine. A supercharged Y block would be cool as hell though! This thread is making me want to blow my old '60 apart and give it a refresh!
|
|
|
Post by froghawk on Aug 31, 2017 12:31:50 GMT -5
..got to finish my '60 Ford Ranch Wagon - 32 dragster combo now! I'd love to start my '60 Pu & moondragster, I'm really like the shortbed of yours. Also have damaged '60 Pu to be a 600 wrecker.. Thanks, Bob! No rules saying you can't work a bit on the Mooneyes combo and the Ranch at the same time. Love the F-600 wrecker idea - they were really great-looking trucks.
|
|
|
Post by froghawk on Aug 31, 2017 12:38:11 GMT -5
[/quote]I think the bumpers look OK once you make them look closer to a full scale. I separated the bumper from the grille and made the splash pan for mine. It's the same as a rolled pan. I didn't like how it looked without the bumper because the bottom of the grille sticks out too far past it and the frame is visible. Maybe if you made a rolled pan that came out flush with or past the grille just a touch, it may look OK. But, then you'll have the rear to deal with. [/quote]
Agreed, Roger. If I do anything though it'll probably be rolled pans front and rear, but that's kind of getting into "show custom" and I was originally thinking "mild custom shop truck" for this project. There's time to decide while the primary project is an interior for the '58 Fairlane!
|
|
|
Post by froghawk on Aug 31, 2017 12:43:27 GMT -5
That's looking very promising. I've never been a huge fan of these trucks - mainly that front overhang combined with the heavy grille - and I usually prefer stepside shortbeds, but this one looks just right. I saw the before pics on the MCM forum and the proportions are much better with the short box, as well as the stance. Thanks, Stu! I've been looking at these old trucks for a long time now and the quirky proportions, with that blunt nose and long front overhang have kinda grown me! But the designer in me still says "What were they thinking?"
|
|
|
Post by froghawk on Aug 31, 2017 12:50:19 GMT -5
This is great stuff! After spending tons of time on eBay and getting out it a whole lot of times, I added a '57 Ford SWB pick up to my last Modelhaus order! I'm totally glad I did, the price of the Modelhaus kit was right in line (as in cheaper) with what I'd been bidding on eBay. Now it's like starting with fresh minty styrene all over again. (Haven't started on this one yet.) The bodywork is essentially the same so I'm watching with great interest to see how you're doing things. I'm thinking about going with the Mac-Supercharged Y-block out of the Revell '57 Fairlane, which I've already eyeballed and it looks like the transmission tail-housing will have to be reworked to make work. If given the chance, that's the route I'd take on a full-size build, including some sort of supercharger to really stress the old Y-block out! Thanks, Skip! I like how you think – the supercharged y-block from the Revell kit IS a natural and is beautifully detailed, but I'm thinking that one might go in the AMT '57 T-bird that's giving up it's engine for this truck. Wish I had the engine detail knowledge to make that Revell engine a dual-quad, dual Mac SC Bonneville motor for my 'Bird!
|
|
|
Post by froghawk on Aug 31, 2017 13:13:09 GMT -5
The T-Bird engine will drop right in like it was made for it. I didn't put an engine in my '60. But, I did put one in my '61. I used the '61s carbs and intake along with the headers from the '56 Victoria. Some wiring and plumbing, it made a pretty nice little engine. A supercharged Y block would be cool as hell though! This thread is making me want to blow my old '60 apart and give it a refresh! Thanks, Roger! It did take some tweaking to get the 'Bird engine in. Had to extend the tailshaft a bit to get the distributor to clear the firewall and shorten the fan pulley to clear the radiator (it still needs a little more air in there.) I also swapped the oil pan around to front-sump configuration like the full-size Fords then drilled it for the good old wire axle to make things easy (and cause furrowed brows among fans of "full detail". Also got rid of the flange on the T-bird air cleaner. Still needs some radiator hoses made. Check it out... With a couple elbows of bent styrene I'll get the exhaust hooked up, though it might be cool to add a cut-out for some lake plugs. Yes? I also took a few minutes before The Daily Show to make a bed cover from some "V-groove" styrene. Fortunately the bed is reasonably square!
|
|
|
Post by Plowboy on Aug 31, 2017 22:00:54 GMT -5
I like the bed cover John! While you have the v groove out, you can make a head liner for it too. I made one from a .020 sheet and half round for mine. It works really well to cover the glass runners. If you would like a chassis with no glue burn, send me a PM.
|
|
|
Post by froghawk on Sept 1, 2017 12:54:17 GMT -5
I like the bed cover John! While you have the v groove out, you can make a head liner for it too. I made one from a .020 sheet and half round for mine. It works really well to cover the glass runners. If you would like a chassis with no glue burn, send me a PM. Thanks, Roger! I like the headliner idea – I was planning to use the V-groove on the door panels, so may as well carry the theme onto the ceiling. Thanks for the chassis offer, but this one's already modified for wheelbase, stance and engine fit. I'll probably just clean it up a bit and shoot some Tamiya matte black on it with the usual basic paint detail.
|
|
|
Post by skip on Sept 3, 2017 20:04:00 GMT -5
I know you're probably trying to stay all Ford n a Ford, but the T-Bird air cleaner makes me think that a Cadillac Batwing air cleaner would look pretty good too! What I was thinking is to turn the Caddy's air cleaner backwards of what we normally see them run with the intake holes to the rear and the radiused backside to the front as in the stock type T-Bird air cleaner you're showing.
|
|
|
Post by Plowboy on Sept 3, 2017 22:38:48 GMT -5
Thanks, Skip! I like how you think – the supercharged y-block from the Revell kit IS a natural and is beautifully detailed, but I'm thinking that one might go in the AMT '57 T-bird that's giving up it's engine for this truck. Wish I had the engine detail knowledge to make that Revell engine a dual-quad, dual Mac SC Bonneville motor for my 'Bird! I built a '57 Ford a long time ago with that setup. It was a pain in the ass to get it under the hood! When I put it back together, I want to add the brackets, plumbing and air filters.
|
|
|
Post by krassandbernie on Sept 4, 2017 10:29:44 GMT -5
I am loving the Thunda-berd engine in your truck! I was going to suggest it might also look cooler with the dual quad intake from the Revell '57 Ford Custom sedan kit; but I am not sure if you would be pinched for clearance back at the firewall; and it appears that you are keeping with all vintage era derived parts on this one like most of the others........with the exception of Evergreen strips, v-groove sheet, wire mesh, etc. This is why your builds pull off that convincing 'built by an expert in the '60's' look!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 17:29:05 GMT -5
That 312 looks perfect in there, good choice. Great build all around so far. Looking forward to seeing where you go with this one.
|
|
|
Post by froghawk on Sept 5, 2017 8:27:42 GMT -5
I am loving the Thunda-berd engine in your truck! I was going to suggest it might also look cooler with the dual quad intake from the Revell '57 Ford Custom sedan kit; but I am not sure if you would be pinched for clearance back at the firewall; and it appears that you are keeping with all vintage era derived parts on this one like most of the others........with the exception of Evergreen strips, v-groove sheet, wire mesh, etc. This is why your builds pull off that convincing 'built by an expert in the '60's' look! Thanks, Ed! I'm probably going to save that dual quad setup for a '57 Thunderbird I've got in mind that will take inspiration from Doane Spencer's '55 'Bird and the '57 "Battlebird." Would love to be able to do it with dual McCulloch superchargers. Anyway, yeah, the 'Bird engine is almost a no-brainer for this swap, and I didn't want get too crazy further with swaps or added detail (though I may not be able to live with AMT's missing valve cover bolts!) I do try to keep most of my parts sources from vintage or reissued kits, in part because I like that stuff and, more importantly, 'cause my mental data of car kit parts gets thin after about 1962 or '63!
|
|