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Post by Plowboy on Apr 3, 2019 15:28:44 GMT -5
I guess it's my ADD or something lately. But, I'm having a hard time staying focused on one project. While waiting on one paint job to strip (wrong shade) and two others to dry, I got in on this for a minute. What actually got it started was I tried these wheels and tires on my '34 project. They would have stuck probably. But, I would have had to widen the track, change the engine and lower it more. Too much work! Then, I remembered this project. Done a quick mockup and was like "Hell yeah! That's it!!" I'm using the AMT '36 chassis, fenders, front clip, firewall and door bottoms with a Revell '37 cab, bed and wheels. I also plan to use the '36 interior pieces. Tires are from the Revell '29 roadster. My original plan was to use the Pontiac engine. But, with the flathead from the Revell '40 project freed up, that's what I'm going with. Still have some tweaking to do as far as getting everything fitting the way it should. But, the worst part is done. I think... The plan is to build it very simple. No details. Kinda like I did my '36 roadster. If I ever want to make something more out of it, I can. Besides, my other two projects will be detailed. Don't want to get bogged down or none of them will get finished. It's came around so quick and suddenly that I don't even have colors in mind for it yet. Kinda thinking gray for the body with a red grille and wheels. Here's where it's at currently.
Any ideas or suggestions welcomed!
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Post by skip on Apr 3, 2019 16:33:37 GMT -5
That's one that Henry's Design Department should have done, Ford got a lot of mileage out of their this years Deluxe being next years Standard not sure why they didn't take more of that into the truck line other than they were trying to separate Commercial Trucks from the Car Lines. I like this conversion as much as I do the '37 car front end on the '37 pick up it flows really well. My brother had a '37 Plymouth Pick Up, the front end wasn't much different than the '37 Plymouth Cars, (if any); so Detroit was doing that back in the thirties, maybe just not Ford.
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Post by gearface on Apr 3, 2019 17:38:59 GMT -5
Super cool project, Roger. It works really well. Just a thought: the profile might benefit from taking a 1/4" or so out of the length of the bed to bring the tailgate closer to the rear fenders. (quickly slapped this together in photoshop)
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Post by chepp on Apr 3, 2019 18:26:24 GMT -5
Nice project! The front works really well with the cab and bed. Gearface's idea to shorten the bed a little improves it even more.
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Post by spex84 on Apr 3, 2019 22:15:46 GMT -5
Right on! Looks great so far. That's some significant bodywork for a "simple" build
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Post by Dennis on Apr 3, 2019 23:05:30 GMT -5
This looks really, REALLY good! I like the way you did the cab, that's good thinking. I'd definitely shorten the bed like Sam's photoshop. With that the proportions go from really good to perfect.
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Post by Mr409 on Apr 4, 2019 7:36:52 GMT -5
Really nice work making the body parts fit together so well. I also think that shortening the bed a little might be a good idea, but other than that the proportions are just right. Interesting to see how this comes together!
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Post by Plowboy on Apr 4, 2019 9:12:17 GMT -5
Thanx guys, I appreciate the comments! I've given the shortened bed idea a ton of thought. But, I've decided against it for a few reasons. One is even though this isn't stock. I want the body to have stock proportions. Two is if you look at the bottom of the bed sides in relation to the fenders, it's balanced. I measured the overhang front and rear. Less than 1 mm difference. Three is when I looked at a full scale '36, it has a front heavy/stubby rear appearance to the bed. I'm concerned I would get the same look if I shorten the bed. Here's a couple of straight on shots of the bed with everything where it goes.
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Post by deucedays on Apr 4, 2019 11:41:11 GMT -5
Very well done conversion. It is going to be a very good looking truck.
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Post by Ranchwagon on Apr 4, 2019 21:45:49 GMT -5
Great idea and nice work as usual. The panel needs to be done too!
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Post by Duane on Apr 4, 2019 22:46:46 GMT -5
Roger; paint the truck jet black, and leave the chrome as is !
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Post by constructionbob on Apr 4, 2019 23:27:56 GMT -5
Killer! I like the way U changed the cab bottom.
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Post by Plowboy on Apr 5, 2019 12:31:10 GMT -5
I've been looking this thing over and over and over. The bed issue is really bugging me. Something needs done. One thing that's bugging me more than the length of the bed is the position of the rear fenders. To my eye, the center of the fender and wheel opening should be centered with the bed and center stake pocket. In order to do that, I'll need to move the fender back, lengthen the running boards and the frame. If I'm going to do all of that, I want a better chassis to start with. So, I'm going to get another '37 pickup kit to use for parts. I don't have everything I need anyway. So much for the simple concept! But, if I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it right. The extra kit will make all the difference. I may not even have to lengthen the frame. We'll see.
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Post by spex84 on Apr 5, 2019 19:11:25 GMT -5
So...I see what you mean, but there's a molded-in stamping on the bed that follows the contour of the fender. I ran into trouble with that when shortening a '37 bed through the middle, but lengthening it would open the same can o' worms. The simplest way to move that stake pocket relative to the wheel centerline is to chisel out the existing stake pocket and put in a new one where you'd like it to be. The you can shorten the bed by say, 3mm, and everything will be balanced out!
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Post by Plowboy on Apr 6, 2019 0:24:11 GMT -5
So...I see what you mean, but there's a molded-in stamping on the bed that follows the contour of the fender. I ran into trouble with that when shortening a '37 bed through the middle, but lengthening it would open the same can o' worms. The simplest way to move that stake pocket relative to the wheel centerline is to chisel out the existing stake pocket and put in a new one where you'd like it to be. The you can shorten the bed by say, 3mm, and everything will be balanced out! That stamping doesn't follow the contour of the '36 fenders anyway. Notice in the last photos that I had puttied in the stamping in front of the fenders. I'll have to remove that now and rework it. Moving the fenders back will accomplish what I want and won't take much more work than shortening the bed. The bed will be untouched except for the stampings that will have to be done regardless. Here's a photo where I just simply pushed the bed forward enough to center the bed over the fenders.
This also gives it a little more length between the front of the fender and front of the bed/rear of the cab. When I get another '37 kit, I'll get back on this. I want to get the 2n1 kit for the extra parts and suspension.
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