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Post by Dennis on Apr 20, 2019 23:13:18 GMT -5
This post is inspired by Chris' recent "Saturday Night Mock Up" thread. I have a small pile of "future projects" where I've gone ahead and picked out all of the parts ahead of time so when they get they're turn everything is set aside and ready to go. Once such future project is my 2nd Revell '30 Coupe. I'm in no way ready to start on this but thought it would be fun to do a rough mock up for you guys. Revell '30 Coupe Body and interior. Revell '32 series frame and rear axle/suspension. '30 Coupe front axle/suspension and brakes. Beatnik Bandit front tires with Revell '32 5-Window front wheels. '41 Lincoln rear tires with the new steelies from Ed that I made to fit them. AMT parts pack Pontiac 421 engine and trans with the dual carb option, Revell parts pack Pontiac front cover/water pump/ oil pan and headers. I'm using the '32 series frame because it's a 100x better looking that the '32-style frame in the '30 Coupe kit. It also doesn't have a stretched wheel base which the '30 Coupe version does. I also won't need to rework the wheel well size because the big Lincoln tires are perfect match.
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Post by spex84 on Apr 21, 2019 0:23:02 GMT -5
Sweet! Glad to inspire more mockups. I think my favorite feature is the dual quads with mushroom caps. They're screaming for a nut on top, though! I've heard complaints about the wheel wells on the '30 coupe before, but man, with a proper set of tall bias plies like those lincolns in there, it's a match made in heaven. Last weekend I start putting together parts for a blown-Olds T bucket that I've been wanting to build for years...didn't have time to mock it up but when I do, I'll post some pics. Today I also found that the intake from the old Ala Kart Red Ram looks kinda like an Edmunds 2x2, and I just happened to have some bell air cleaners from the old '50 Ford convertible kit...so it all went together in a bag towards a future project. Labelled. So I don't forget where the various bits came from, 1000 years from now when I finally start building it
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Post by Dennis on Apr 23, 2019 23:15:45 GMT -5
UPDATE!I took a little time to do a couple of preliminary modifications just for the sake of being able to do a better mock up and really get a feel for "the look." - I bobbed the rear of the frame and removed the gas tank. This included rounding the ends of the now shorter frame horns and installing a round spreader bar made from 3/32" Evergreen tube. - I performed a "mini channel" of the cowl, a modification made infamous by shops like SoCal Speed Shop and members of the HAMB message forum. Rather than alter the shape of the bottom edge of the cowl or put a wedge spacer between the body and frame, the front of the frame that angles up is allowed to tuck just inside the bottom of the cowl. - I got the Pontiac engine more precisely located with the main accessories tacked on for a better look at the fit and styling. - I filled the notches in the front frame horns and installed a spreader bar made from 1/16" Evergreen rod. - I notched a Revell '32 series grill shell to drop it down in proper alignment with the cowl. - I tacked on some '48 Ford hubcaps to make the overall look more complete. I also modified the rear axle to sit as low as possible but to get this stance in the mock up I'm going to have to tuck the axle even tighter and c-notch the frame.
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Post by afx on Apr 24, 2019 5:37:29 GMT -5
Always enjoy your builds Dennis. I'm going to show my ignorance related to this era hot rods. Can you help me understand what you did to create a mini-channel? As I understand it the body position of the 29-32 Ford is determined by the relationship of the floor and the firewall. To channel the body you must raise the floor (within the body) and notch the firewall. To perform a mini-channel (I have seen it referred to as a wedge channel also) did you just modify the firewall slightly? Sorry I don't mean to hijack your thread.
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Post by Plowboy on Apr 24, 2019 9:03:35 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the mini channel either. If the purpose of it is to lower the front of the body, I would do a wedge section at the bottom of the body. I would actually cut the bottom off and add the lip detail back on to keep it simple. The body could then set back on top of the frame and be flush with the frame front to rear. Just an idea.
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Post by Dennis on Apr 24, 2019 21:54:45 GMT -5
Always enjoy your builds Dennis. I'm going to show my ignorance related to this era hot rods. Can you help me understand what you did to create a mini-channel? As I understand it the body position of the 29-32 Ford is determined by the relationship of the floor and the firewall. To channel the body you must raise the floor (within the body) and notch the firewall. To perform a mini-channel (I have seen it referred to as a wedge channel also) did you just modify the firewall slightly? Sorry I don't mean to hijack your thread. Happy to explain! In the hot rodding world "channeling" typically means to lower the body over the frame to make a car look visually lower without actually having to modify the suspension or frame. This means removing the original sub rail structure and floor and then reinstalling it higher up in the body or custom fabricating new sub rails and floor. That's not what I've done here. Installing a Model A era (1928-1931) body on a 1932 frame is a timeless tradition that dates back to the mid-late 1930's as hot rodders found they could combine the superior '32 chassis and engine (improved 4-cylinder and intro of the flathead V8) from a cheap donor truck, sedan or other unwanted model with a light weight A roadster body (and of course coupes and everything else as the years have gone by). However, the bottom of a Model A body is dead flat (as is a Model A frame) whereas a '32 frame is not. The front portion of a '32 frame sweeps upward and the sweep starts just under where the Model A cowl will fall not allowing the body to sit flush on the frame. The most common way of dealing with this was to install a wedge spacer (typically made of wood) between the body and frame to take up the resulting gap. A different approach is the "mini channel". That is to modify the body sub rails within the cowl to match the angle of the frame sweep and allow the cowl sheet metal to just slip over the frame rail, about the depth of the lower body reveal line. This allows the body to sit flush on the frame without the need for a spacer. That is what I've done with this model and it was as simple as trimming the firewall feet and slightly thinning the inside of the cowl plastic. Below is a simplified drawing I did illustrating what's going on. Hope this cleared things up for you!
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Post by Dennis on Apr 24, 2019 21:58:48 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the mini channel either. If the purpose of it is to lower the front of the body, I would do a wedge section at the bottom of the body. I would actually cut the bottom off and add the lip detail back on to keep it simple. The body could then set back on top of the frame and be flush with the frame front to rear. Just an idea. See my reply above. The purpose is not to lower the front of the body, it is to allow the body to sit flush on a '32 frame where the sweep at the front ordinarily interferes with doing so.
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Post by kenny on Apr 25, 2019 0:19:24 GMT -5
That looks awesome Dennis!
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Post by Plowboy on Apr 25, 2019 2:42:20 GMT -5
See my reply above. The purpose is not to lower the front of the body, it is to allow the body to sit flush on a '32 frame where the sweep at the front ordinarily interferes with doing so. Ah. I didn't see the gap between the body and frame in the first photos.
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Post by afx on Apr 25, 2019 5:20:19 GMT -5
Thanks for response Dennis - much appreciated!
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Post by Dennis on Apr 6, 2020 9:31:18 GMT -5
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Post by Mr. Metallic on Apr 6, 2020 10:53:30 GMT -5
Man, that stance is tough looking. Ready to pounce on the next victim who thinks their car is ready to take down the "king of the valley"
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Post by spex84 on Apr 6, 2020 11:05:11 GMT -5
Whoa, that's an aggressive wheel-tire package! Chopped top by Ed looks great on there. Glad to see this project resurrected!
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Post by krassandbernie on Apr 6, 2020 14:14:14 GMT -5
Killa!!!!! LOL! That second to last 3 quarter rear view shot is the best angle you posted! Love your mod with the floor pan/chassis...awesome work!
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Post by Dennis on Apr 11, 2020 23:13:38 GMT -5
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