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Post by lo51merc on Dec 2, 2020 10:56:05 GMT -5
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Post by krassandbernie on Dec 2, 2020 13:38:58 GMT -5
That looks so much better; and prototypical of what you'd expect! LOL! Dig'n the stance too!
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Post by spex84 on Dec 2, 2020 13:59:22 GMT -5
I like that the engine is very visible! It's looking good...I agree that the rear fender openings could use a little work. Is that how they are from the box? I'd somehow never noticed before.
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Post by FordRodnKustom on Dec 2, 2020 14:44:39 GMT -5
Ugh, I can't stand the Beetles... I don't like beetles much either, kind of creep me out a little. Now The Beatles, that's a different story altogether!
I dig the idea of the V12 in a '40 coupe and this one looks great so far. I wonder though, as a shine tanker, with that weight up front, wouldn't this thing plow like a dump truck around all the curvy mountain roads of the Carolina's and Georgia?
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Post by Dennis on Dec 2, 2020 16:28:45 GMT -5
Ugh, I can't stand the Beetles... I don't like beetles much either, kind of creep me out a little. Now The Beatles, that's a different story altogether! I dig the idea of the V12 in a '40 coupe and this one looks great so far. I wonder though, as a shine tanker, with that weight up front, wouldn't this thing plow like a dump truck around all the curvy mountain roads of the Carolina's and Georgia?
Wouldn’t plow any worse than one with an early Caddy or Olds motor. Those early overheads are pigs. They’d have to put a thicker anti roll bar or add some spring leaves to balance it out in any case.
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Post by krassandbernie on Dec 2, 2020 18:06:20 GMT -5
I don't like beetles much either, kind of creep me out a little. Now The Beatles, that's a different story altogether! I dig the idea of the V12 in a '40 coupe and this one looks great so far. I wonder though, as a shine tanker, with that weight up front, wouldn't this thing plow like a dump truck around all the curvy mountain roads of the Carolina's and Georgia?
Wouldn’t plow any worse than one with an early Caddy or Olds motor. Those early overheads are pigs. They’d have to put a thicker anti roll bar or add some spring leaves to balance it out in any case. Don't forget that the shine in the trunk would balance out the weight front to rear! LOL!
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Post by Duane on Dec 3, 2020 0:44:52 GMT -5
the shiners would go over everything in their cars; they would usually have the car loaded with full bottles , and check everything, and set it up for more power, and speed as well. the shiner's favorite car, was the '40 2 door sedan they'd be able to stash the trunk, and under back seat full of more product.
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Post by tomqvaxy on Dec 3, 2020 10:47:54 GMT -5
maybe a tank in the trunk with transfer pump and a huge "give-away" gas cap filler on the fender? save labor and all that clinking with mason jars & bottles. even packed with hay, there would be a lot of time involved moving product.
engine bay looks well stuffed. any chance of photo etched braces (knee braces) at the top corners of the firewall cut out? i think they would go with the body curves and theoretically reduce the stress-riser of the 90 degree cut.
just a thought.
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Post by skip on Dec 4, 2020 0:39:11 GMT -5
Junior Johnson drove a '40 Ford Coupe; using it as a "shine" runner, that's why he drove N.A.S.C.A.R.the experience; driving the "shine" ! Most of the suspension and engine technology of the early days of NASCAR came right out of the hills and hollers where the Moonshiners ran liquor in the trunks of old Ford coupes and sedans. The '39/'40 Ford Coupe being one of the more favored platforms to get a tanker up and running. Someone mentioned a transfer tank, although I've heard of those being used, most of the historical information on shiners and their vehicles pretty much just indicates that the "product" was stowed in the cavernous trunk in the same boxes the Quart Mason jars came in. Probably no slower unloading boxes than pumping from one tank to another. Plus quart jars gave everyone a quantifiable amount of "product' being delivered.
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Post by lo51merc on Dec 4, 2020 10:03:06 GMT -5
Thanks Skip. I had forgotten to mention that my mechanic had already done all of the suspension upgrades on the car before I started this thread. Gary
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Post by lo51merc on Dec 8, 2020 16:42:37 GMT -5
Oh brother the title of this update might not get past the censors. I can change it but I don't want to be the butt of any jokes. I've always been a fan of the cleaner shapes of the 39 Deluxe and 40 Standard front sheet metal. So since I still have the warped fender section if anything goes wrong with this conversion, I can still go back to the Deluxe 40 parts. The headlights are stripped of chrome and glued in place. I ground away the 40 grille and fitted a 39 grille in it's place. I had to do some tweaking of the 39 hood for a better fit. I think I'll make a new piece of trim for the sides of it as there wasn't much left of it. I drilled a hole in the left rear fender for the gas cap, that's something I've NEVER done before. Also never done previously are the holes in the trunk lid, one for the handle and the other for the license plate bracket. I also filled the locating hole for the right fender taillight. I always remember seeing a black 40 Coupe back in the mid 70's that only had the left taillight. I also recall that it had 40 Deluxe front sheet metal. Anyway I'm going for the real cheapo 40 coupe for this runner. Enjoy, hopefully. Comments, let's hear 'em. Gary Hosted on FotkiHosted on FotkiHosted on Fotki
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Post by spex84 on Dec 8, 2020 20:00:38 GMT -5
Looking good! I like the '39 nose, and you made the splice job on the V12 look easy!
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Post by Duane on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:07 GMT -5
nice, and clean work Gary; i like it a lot !
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Post by skip on Dec 9, 2020 9:29:46 GMT -5
Went back and reread your description of your "front clip" swap. Sounds like you went the harder route - The whole fender section from the '39/'40 Tudor fits right under the '40 Coupe ending up with either a '40 Standard or '40 DeLuxe. When these kits were "cheap" in the sixties ($1 or $2) we used to swap back and forth between the two kits, the only one that wouldn't or at least I don't remember trying was the '40 DeLuxe Sedan Delivery.
Either way you went, it looks like it was meant to be! (I just thought you did the fender swap, so you did a really good job of it!) I'm liking that firewall as well, the good 'sheet metal" work, the kind you would see done by early Hot Rodders who were stuffing late OHV engines in these cars. We tend to think some of these types of conversions were pretty much "hack jobs", then a prototype along these lines pops up and changes opinions! I think if this were a full sized car, that would be the way it would be described as an "opinion changer that broke the hack job mold!" Did I mention, I really like this one!! LoL! It's a totally plausible idea!
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Post by lo51merc on Dec 9, 2020 15:30:02 GMT -5
Thanks Skip!
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