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Post by dodgefever on Dec 5, 2016 12:28:54 GMT -5
I tend to think if it wouldn't be within the remit of Hot Rod, R&C or Car Craft magazines, it's probably not TRaKable. There is plenty of scope for building things within the guidelines. I will be following this one on DPMCC.  |
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Post by Dennis on Dec 5, 2016 12:40:25 GMT -5
Why? Between hot rods, customs and dragstrip stuff there is plenty of ground to cover within the rules of the forum. And if you have a look around, Bob has been plenty flexible over the years.
And, like Plowboy stated, where do you stop? By joining TRaK I agreed to follow Bob's rules, not to try and alter his forum to suit my interests. He has his reasons for what he does and doesn't allow and I'm good with that.
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Post by rbartrop on Dec 5, 2016 14:11:46 GMT -5
Why? Between hot rods, customs and dragstrip stuff there is plenty of ground to cover within the rules of the forum. And if you have a look around, Bob has been plenty flexible over the years. And, like Plowboy stated, where do you stop? By joining TRaK I agreed to follow Bob's rules, not to try and alter his forum to suit my interests. He has his reasons for what he does and doesn't allow and I'm good with that. When I posted the start of my track T build, you asked if it was going to be for street or competition. Good thing I gave the right answer, because apparently if I had decided to make a period correct competition version, it would not be eligable for TRaK. Does that really make sense to anyone? Nobody is asking for NASCAR here, this is about correcting a mistake. Sure Bob can have whatever rules he wants, but if the rules said something like "Flathead Fords aren't part of traditional hot rodding", I think some people would feel obligated to try and correct that. There has also been the tradition here that facts trump opinions. Hard evidence of what people actually did carries more weight that people think they did, and the evidence is pretty solid that back in the day when people raced hot rods, they sometimes raced them in circles. How big a part of early rodding was it? There were no drag strips before 1950, and it's probably safe to say there were more dirt tracks than dry lakes in the 1940s. |
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Post by Dennis on Dec 5, 2016 15:16:58 GMT -5
Why? Between hot rods, customs and dragstrip stuff there is plenty of ground to cover within the rules of the forum. And if you have a look around, Bob has been plenty flexible over the years. And, like Plowboy stated, where do you stop? By joining TRaK I agreed to follow Bob's rules, not to try and alter his forum to suit my interests. He has his reasons for what he does and doesn't allow and I'm good with that. When I posted the start of my track T build, you asked if it was going to be for street or competition. Good thing I gave the right answer, because apparently if I had decided to make a period correct competition version, it would not be eligable for TRaK. Does that really make sense to anyone? Nobody is asking for NASCAR here, this is about correcting a mistake. Sure Bob can have whatever rules he wants, but if the rules said something like "Flathead Fords aren't part of traditional hot rodding", I think some people would feel obligated to try and correct that. There has also been the tradition here that facts trump opinions. Hard evidence of what people actually did carries more weight that people think they did, and the evidence is pretty solid that back in the day when people raced hot rods, they sometimes raced them in circles. How big a part of early rodding was it? There were no drag strips before 1950, and it's probably safe to say there were more dirt tracks than dry lakes in the 1940s. Looking again at your T project I know that by "competition" I meant dry lakes. My post above was mostly in response to Dogfish who stated that this forum wouldn't last much longer if things didn't loosen up and I was pointing out that what is allowed covers a lot of ground and that Bob had been lenient many times over the years when some models had some gray area. I should have quoted his post. I personally think that early roadster and track racing (like the video shared shows) is just as important to early hot rodding as dry lakes racing and many of the track roadsters of the 40's did double duty on the lakes. Before things got really competitive some guys even ran their street roadsters on the oval tracks, stripped down just like at the lakes. But, once you get into butchered coupe and sedan bodied jalopies from the 50's and 60's things do get a little wonky and I think that's what Bob was trying to avoid. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 15:48:23 GMT -5
The OP Mark is satisfied with the answer he got when he asked about his build here in the proper sub forum and we appreciate that. Lively discussion is always good and encouraged here and everyone's opinion is respected however I think this thread has taken a negative turn. At this point I will refer to item 8 in the guidlines for posting here on TRak: "8. If you do not like the way things are here, I would suggest finding another forum. All decisions made in the way TRaK is run is to stay focused on one goal. *IF I SEE A POST SUGGESTING ANYTHING NEGATIVE OR ONE THAT MIGHT CREATE NEGATIVITY ABOUT THIS FORUM OR IT'S INTEGRITY, I WILL DELETE IT NO QUESTIONS ASKED!* " This is per Bob, not me so anyone in dispute is strongly encouraged to take the matter up with Bob. He checks in here regularly. Just as a refresher, you can read the full "guidelines for posting" document that can be found here: trakinscale.proboards.com/thread/8980/guidelines-posting-on-trakEveryone has made their point. Locking thread. |
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Post by RodBurNeR on Dec 8, 2016 22:05:09 GMT -5
If this forum doesn't change or at least bend a little, pretty soon it may be gone.
Why did you leave? It's been quite awhile since discussing dirt trackers. I don't have a problem with them, but I feel it strays from the traditional aspect of this forum. To muddy up, beat up etc... just doesn't fit what we do here. However, I would be willing to entertain a build like this IF it stays within guidelines. I don't want to see 60s or 70s or more modern builds of dirt track cars. To me, if it's going to fit this forum, I would like to see photos of actual inspirations that existed for the time period WITH the build in the thread. I want to see realistic style and parts used from 1950 and back and on a STOCK chassis. No exceptions. This goes for dirt trackers only.....end of subject, now you have permission to do with what you will. I will amend this to guidelines. |
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