49 Ford

[oldskewljay]

Bob said that I could post this here for more opinions as to whether its Trakable or not.. I should have in the first place but I was excited to finish my first 2011 model.

AMT 49 Ford, channeled, front "bumper" and rear roll pan from the kit, wheels and tires from the Double Dragster kit, small block Chevy with finned Corvette valve covers, headlights are from an old AMT 60's parts pack, bucket seats from the 49 Ford kit. Let me know. No big deal if it isn't, like I said I was just excited to get one finished finally

[Duane]

looks TRaK-able to me !!!!!
great job !!!!!

[RodBurNeR]

My first impression is this is just like something you would see in the new rat rod magazines. It's not traditional at all IMHO.
Just because I own the forum, doesn't mean I am right....but that's my opinion.

[Deleted]

I agree with Bob. Traditional cars had paint, and no rust through. There is a great thread on the hamb on 50's era hot rods that explain that.

[sdrodder]

not trakable cause most cars had paint in those days(well some where weathered but non had huge gaping rust holes). Mainly i agree with the guys its something i would see in ol skool rodz or rebel rodz.

[Koolkat]

It seems to me to be a 'rat' pro street. The pro street is the non Trakable part to me.

But it's a cool model, anyway...just not Trakable.

[Bernard Kron]

I saw this elsewhere and consider it an excellent model in many ways, not the least of which is aesthetically - color, theme, lines, details, it pushes my buttons on several levels. But, as, by now, should be obvious, this is a very contemporary build, the kind you see in the "Kulture" and "DeLuxe" kinds of mags. It's what might be considered neo-Traditional, celebrating and romanticizing from a modern perspective the aesthetic cues and details of the classic Traditional era that ended at the close of the 60's. I now for younger builders the differences can be hazy; older builders have the luxury of having been through the birth, decline and renaissance of both Hot Rodding and the car modeling hobby so the differences are intuitively obvious.

I think many builds on TRaK cross the line in varying degrees, so perhaps it's as much a matter of acknowledging a particularly successful evocation of the TRaK spirit as it is of criticizing a build that doesn't quite make it.

All respect, though, to the builder and this model - great stuff!

[Duane]

Jay,
looking back, i was looking
at the PARTS, and NOT the
car as a WHOLE !!!!!

i hope that you don't take my
critique wrong, but it IS a
conglomeration of maybe
the right parts but wrong
finish for TRaK.

however, it IS cool as hell !!!!!

[reedeezel]

;DThe build is kool as heck, and impressive in so many ways! That being said, it doesn't fit the "traditional" criteria for this site. There are many sites that will welcome a build like yours, and by all means don't hesitate to enter it at shows, it will undoubtedly get attention. Use those building skills to please yourself first; that's what this hobby is about. I have learned that the only reason there are secrets in modeling is because I haven't asked. Plastiholics are the sharingist bunch I know, some of us just come off as cranky old farts by nature, so build on and build often!

[draggon]

I absolutely LOVE it! That being said, I am in agreement with most everyone else, that it's too modern. However, I can imagine this with some shiny paint it looking very much like a vintage build right out of Car Model Magaine!

[fletch]

I see this as a build where the "Kid" couldn't decide what he wanted to build. So, one day he was in Gasser mode, the next Custom mode, his entire focus was to build something cool. He worked all week long for a pay check that allowed him to invest in his 'Baby'. He was more concerned with making it go before he got to making it pretty.

As a teenager that is how I did things, worried about the go part before I worried about the show part.

I agree with Bernard, most every build here crosses the "Traditional" line. We build to "OUR" idea of Traditional. At times I think we take Traditional to extremes, and cause potential members to leave because of a sometimes elitist attitude. One of the above statements "There are many sites that will welcome a build like yours" more then a little concerns me. Those kind of statements tend to cause divisions within a group. The statement might as well have said "Nice work, but we don't want you kind around here!" I'm not sure when we got to this point but, it more then a little concerns me, guess I missed the memo!

Sorry for the rant, but I think perhaps we've taken this "Is it Traditional" just a bit to far.

[tex34ford]

H'mmm, lets see now, my '50 Ford convertible that I drove in '56 with the dechromed primer spotted hood wasn't traditional. Well it was kind of a late model, anyway I agree, the build is a stretch for TRAK. That being said, beware of the sweeping generalities that get thrown around here and on the HAMB for that matter.

[Koolkat]

Well Bill, I'm sure your 50 Ford was traditional...

Generalities are often accurate, but it is the details where things become more controversial. I've seen very few, if any, builds that made it past 'admin' that I didn't think were TRAKable. I'm usually for some leeway. If the engine was pulled and the moon tank was removed, and the hood on the car was put on, it'd look like a car that was just pulled out of the weeds?

Is a STOCK 50's car TRAKable? I don't think so according to the rules. If there are no rules like TRAK, it becomes a general car modeling forum, and I think people would leave. I certainly wouldn't want to wade through pages and pages of non-relevant (to me) builds. There are plenty (too many) 'general car modeling' forums on the internet right now, and all it does is dilute most of the forums.

Is the 'is it TRAKable' too strict? Maybe, maybe not. But I come here many times a day to see what's up. On the other hand, I only go to some others once a week or once a month, if that. Guess the TRAKable 'rules' are working?

There's a lot of new members that 'think' it's like a general purpose forum, which it's not. They are supposed to read forum rules. If they don't ---- well, sometimes they go away upset, but it's their fault?

Bob, when somebody joins up, is there a way you can make them start at the Is it TRAKable page first (required reading!), and have to check that they read it and agree in order to proceed to the rest of the forum? Just a thought.

[Bud Ellis " Kustoms"]

While growing up in my younger days seems like the fastest guys in town had the crappiest looking cars body and paint wise But all there $$$ was spent on horsepower as I grew older Ive aquired the shiny good looking rides that realy arnt that fast I guess it all in what you really want ?
This model is built very well exellent use of weathring with realistic scratches not seen very often
As for a young guy too have a real car like this ? well he'd haft too be a rich kid thumbing his nose at the preps cuz horsepower cost $$$ not many kids let alone old farts had that kind of $$ back then and with parts chosin for this build would put it in the late 60 era forsure Your right on the edge of trakability Im not slamming your build I like it alot I look at the whole thing and what it took too make it and that my friend tells me you did a nice job creating your fantasy build.......

[RodBurNeR]

I agree and am intrigued with the comments.

Dave, I only disagree partialy. People need thicker skin when reading here. I concur with the way things are said could worded differently. I only say "you are welcome to post your model on DP". I never mean in any sense their kind is not welcome....if they take it that way, then they are butthurt....not my intentions.


Don, several months ago, I installed code that generates the welcome that includes the link to the guidelines.