Too ratty?

[Jantrix]

Or too "they didn't do it that way back then"?

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On the edge for sure. I'd say the well done "patina" pushes your Ford over to the "rat" side, but I've been wrong about these things before.

[Bernard Kron]

It's not so much the super-nice patina as the grommet holes and the decals that push it over the edge for me. Definitely contemporary with those details, I'd say.

[reedeezel]

If it was all primer, I'd say O.K., but I don't recall too many folks being proud of rust back in the old days.

Good example of the "newstalgia" look, nice build.

[Deleted]

Have to agree with my Bro's Rob. If you were to loose the decals and put on a 60s style cowl or scoop, it would fit right in. There's plenty of patina and rust though.

[krassandbernie]

Jan 5, 2016 13:17:40 GMT -5 Bernard Kron said:

It's not so much the super-nice patina as the grommet holes and the decals that push it over the edge for me. definitely contemporary with those details, I'd say.

My sentiments exactly.

[junkyardjeff]

The holes in the hood would be my suggestion that would keep it out of here.

[Jantrix]

Yeah I guess you guys are right. No one EVER put port holes in a hood before. You know folks, just because something wasn't done by everybody back in the day, doesn't mean it was never done.

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Note part #70

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Well said Rob.

[Bernard Kron]

Well this is degenerating nicely. I'll stand by what I said. The large, round grommet trim, symmetrically placed down the middle of the hood, is contemporary. Rob asked about its TRaKability in the context of being "too ratty". The combination of the rusty patina, the decal design and placement, and the big round ports makes for a modern "rat" interpretation. I seriously doubt anyone would see this as a replica of a 50's hot rod. A modern take on one, of course, but not a representation of one. We've always been able to find examples from back in the day, and indeed the Buick style exhaust ports were used often enough to have made it into the JC Whitney catalog, but they never looked like this detail. I still think it's a nice model - the hot rod vibe is cool and undeniable, and totally appropriate to the Shoebox - just modern...

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Jan 12, 2016 12:58:56 GMT -5 Bernard Kron said:

Well this is degenerating nicely. I'll stand by what I said. The large, round grommet trim, symmetrically placed down the middle of the hood, is contemporary. Rob asked about its TRaKability in the context of being "too ratty". The combination of the rusty patina, the decal design and placement, and the big round ports makes for a modern "rat" interpretation. I seriously doubt anyone would see this as a replica of a 50's hot rod. A modern take on one, of course, but not a representation of one. We've always been able to find examples from back in the day, and indeed the Buick style exhaust ports were used often enough to have made it into the JC Whitney catalog, but they never looked like this detail. I still think it's a nice model - the hot rod vibe is cool and undeniable, and totally appropriate to the Shoebox - just modern...

I have to agree here. The size of those grommets & their shape & the way they are placed all scream "newstalgia" rather than accurately traditional.

Compare those to the Buick portholes in the 1/1 pics you provided Rob & you'll understand.

Patina & rust are certainly NOT part of the real traditional look, which alone would negate this build fitting in here, "newstalgia" grommets or not.

This site is a valuable reference source for how these things were actually built "back in the day", so I really don't understand why this is even an issue. I can understand if one has a build planned asking in this section if it fits the parameters before posting it here, but I don't understand why people build something that doesn't fit & then try to insists that it does.

[ChrisV]

Bernard and Mark's comments pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject - A nice but contemporary model...

[Jantrix]

Okay fine. So any thing that is unique is "non-traditional". I get it. So this is isn't welcome here?



How can we say that patina and rust aren't part of the traditional look? People didn't drive beaters in the 50's and 60's? I'll have to let my dad know that his '40 Dodge that he drove in the 60's wouldn't be considered traditional today because it had rust and faded paint.

What I'm saying is that back then people did unique things to cars. The put unusual graphics, did crazy body mods, drove cars in any condition. So everything about my model IS traditional. Not a single part is newer than '69. No technology newer than '69 is present. All the boxes are checked.

I'm not trying to create a ruckus here, I'm trying to make you see that your idea of traditional custom/hot rod is too narrow. You're saying that if Barris or Starbird and their contemporaries didn't build it that way it isn't a traditional custom/hot rod. That's a load of crap. Nuff said.

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You're beating a dead horse. It has been tried over and over and over and .........