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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 14:56:19 GMT -5
Just a question for you guys. I'm short on the history of the Monogram Tom Daniels Beer wagon truck kit. Would that be TRakable or maybe just too 70's showcarish?
I ask cause I built one with in a Miller Light scheme I was thinking of posting in this month's A,R,E. Thanks for the feedback.
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Post by spex84 on Mar 5, 2017 18:57:46 GMT -5
I think the Beer Wagon is pretty 70s...but I just looked it up and apparently it was released in '69. To me, the fat tires and overall styling were very much a forecast of the 70s show-rod trend. Just checked the TRAK rules in "Guidelines for Posting on TRAK" and found this: "SHOW RODS: The only show rods that are allowed are the following and this list may be updated. Some of these may not seem to be showrods, but this list also agrees with www.showrods.com's alpha list of showrods. To me, many of these are just hot rods and drag cars.....to each his own. Blue Beetle Green Hornet Yellow Jacket Black Widow Orange Krate Silhouette Beatnik Bandit Roth's OUTLAW Little T Li'l Coffin Red Chariot Badman"
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Post by 53suburban on Mar 5, 2017 20:35:48 GMT -5
seems to me if it were built with traditional wheels and tires and a hood scoop over an SBC with triple carbs it could pass for TRAKable
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Post by spex84 on Mar 5, 2017 21:30:46 GMT -5
I think it could be 60s-i-fied, for sure. Dennis did a C-cab a while back with a traditional look, and I think I've seen the Paddy Wagon done up as a trad rod with wires and narrow whitewalls (looked good!)
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Post by EchoBravoSierra on Mar 5, 2017 21:36:43 GMT -5
On the other side of things, Miller Lite didn't exist until 1973, for whatever that's worth.
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Post by 53suburban on Mar 5, 2017 22:05:51 GMT -5
On the other side of things, Miller Lite didn't exist until 1973, for whatever that's worth. A prototype for a new beer that took years to perfect?
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Post by EchoBravoSierra on Mar 5, 2017 22:12:39 GMT -5
"After its first inception as "Gablinger's Diet Beer," developed in 1967 by Joseph L. Owades, PhD, a biochemist working for New York's Rheingold Brewery, the recipe was given (by the inventor of the light beer process) to one of Miller's competing breweries, Chicago's Meister Brau, which came out with the Meister Brau "Lite" brand in the late 1960s. When Meister Brau ran into financial problems and sold its labels to Miller in 1972, the recipe was relaunched simply as "Lite" on packaging and in advertising (with "Lite Beer from Miller" being its "official" name until the late '90s) in the test markets of Springfield, Illinois, Knoxville, Tennessee, and San Diego, California, in 1973, and heavily marketed using masculine pro sports players and other, so-called, macho figures of the day in an effort to sell to the key beer-drinking male demographic. Miller Lite was introduced nationally in 1975." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_Lite
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Post by Dennis on Mar 5, 2017 22:16:53 GMT -5
I think it could be back-dated to a 60's show rod easily enough. Mostly the wheels and tires are the offenders. Some more appropriate mag wheels and M&H piecrust slicks would do the trick. Like the 'Lil Coffin wheels and tires or that Tom Daniel Stage Coach which has killer 18" magnesium spindle mounts and 5-spoke Americans with M&H slicks out back.
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Post by spex84 on Mar 6, 2017 1:25:34 GMT -5
I never had much interest in the Boot Hill Express, but now I want one for those wicked wheels. Saw a photo a while back of a Monogram '30 coupe with big slicks and spindle-mount fronts, and wondered where they came from (most wheels/tires are too small for that 1:24 body). Now I'm pretty sure I know!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 8:29:16 GMT -5
OK then that's about what I thought but wasn't sure. I'll keep that one away from here. Thanks all for the interesting discussion and the history of Miller Lite beer.
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Post by dodgefever on Mar 6, 2017 12:32:05 GMT -5
I never had much interest in the Boot Hill Express, but now I want one for those wicked wheels. Saw a photo a while back of a Monogram '30 coupe with big slicks and spindle-mount fronts, and wondered where they came from (most wheels/tires are too small for that 1:24 body). Now I'm pretty sure I know! I bought one just for the Hemi, wheels and tyres, with the intention to make a fuel coupe from a ZZ Top kit. Those spindle mounts look pretty big, even for 18" in 1/24, but I never got as far as mocking it up. If I get time later I'll dig it out and see how it looks. Re the Beer Wagon, I feel it's a bit gimmicky for here, even if it had period correct parts.
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Post by RodBurNeR on Mar 6, 2017 16:48:57 GMT -5
sorry to chime in slow here , it was outlined or at least stated long ago.. "no theme based showrods" ;-) if the body didn't exist it's not allowed, but if it did then the entire model has to appear within guidelines, i.e.. wheels, engine all parts visible.
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Post by Dennis on Mar 6, 2017 22:04:43 GMT -5
sorry to chime in slow here , it was outlined or at least stated long ago.. "no theme based showrods" ;-) if the body didn't exist it's not allowed, but if it did then the entire model has to appear within guidelines, i.e.. wheels, engine all parts visible. Well, just to be an arguing butthead, the Beer Wagon foundation is based on a legit early 1900's Mack Bulldog truck...
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Post by RodBurNeR on Mar 7, 2017 18:56:40 GMT -5
sorry to chime in slow here , it was outlined or at least stated long ago.. "no theme based showrods" ;-) if the body didn't exist it's not allowed, but if it did then the entire model has to appear within guidelines, i.e.. wheels, engine all parts visible. Well, just to be an arguing butthead, the Beer Wagon foundation is based on a legit early 1900's Mack Bulldog truck... lol well that's fine, just making a point that the beer wagon and themed show rods aren't TRaKable haha!
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