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Post by spex84 on Jan 20, 2018 23:39:58 GMT -5
So, I've been kicking around this idea for a T bucket for quite some time now. I'm just itching to build it, and that desire is eclipsing other plans I'd made for the model competition. Thing is, I'd be aiming for a time period close to TRAK's cutoff, and pushing the proportions fairly dramatically...cycle front wheels and tires, cammer mill with dual quads and either velocity stacks or wedge scoops, fat Goodyear slicks in back, and possibly even a Jag rear suspension or fabricated IRS made from Chevy parts (like the setup in the Wilhelm's Dream show car or The Invader). Heck, I might even put rectangular headlights on it. All of these things were around in '66-67, but taken together they might scream "1970s" and get people's noses out of joint here. That and the inaccurate valve covers, lol. That said, I'm going for more of a "Cotton Werksman" look as opposed to Dan Woods, Randy Bianchi, Tom Daniels, and all the ultra-crazy buckets of the 70s. Besides, we need at least one 'bucket in the contest, right?  Thoughts?  |
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Post by krassandbernie on Jan 21, 2018 12:19:55 GMT -5
I have absolutely no issues with it since it is well within the cut off date for what was done back in the day; and under the rules of the forum(and Chris obviously researches well before taking on a project). We need to start going by the rules (and allowing what actually fits the rules......we're not stretching or bending the rules either) instead of by how a build makes certain members 'feel'. Lets knock of this 'vibe' crap folks! LOL! From here on out I'm out of this one........I've given my thoughts on the matter. Edit: The one thing that might not quite slide (upon further reflection) would be the slightly larger 'MPC' Goodyear slicks. I think the 1/24th scale Monogram Goodyear Blue Streaks (that I had mocked up on my '40 Ford coupe build years ago) would actually be more appropriate; and still fit into the time frame of the rules here. Larger slicks were becoming more popular on the 'T's by the late sixties.....well before the '70's fad 'T's; but these MPC slicks (also found in the AMT '40 Willys coupe/pickup kit later reissues) are a bit too large I think.  Hosted on Fotki Hosted on Fotki |
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Post by afx on Jan 21, 2018 12:20:36 GMT -5
Not crazy about the headers but I like everything else.
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Post by spex84 on Jan 21, 2018 12:29:52 GMT -5
Thanks guys!
But the headers are my favorite part! Lol. I put them on after looking at the HAMB "crazy headers" thread. I might fabricate some more sedate weedburners from styrene rod if it turns out there's a conflict between the front tires and the forward sweep of these headers, which may indeed be the case.
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Post by dodgefever on Jan 21, 2018 13:23:52 GMT -5
Looks good to me, apart from the slicks, as Ed said. Eiher those Monogram Blue Streaks or perhaps the new AMT ones from the Ohio George Willys would work. I'm wondering if you can cut and shut those header pipes somehow, so the two front tubes mount where the two rear ones are now, but it would be a headache to work it out.
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Post by dodgefever on Jan 21, 2018 13:27:42 GMT -5
We need to start going by the rules (and allowing what actually fits the rules......we're not stretching or bending the rules either) instead of by how a build makes certain members 'feel'. Lets knock of this 'vibe' crap folks! LOL! From here on out I'm out of this one........I've given my thoughts on the matter. You know I'm normally in agreement with you, but I think the "vibe" consideration does have some merit. I've seen enough models with all the right parts that for various reasons just don't fit the TRaK aesthetic. |
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Post by krassandbernie on Jan 21, 2018 13:50:59 GMT -5
We need to start going by the rules (and allowing what actually fits the rules......we're not stretching or bending the rules either) instead of by how a build makes certain members 'feel'. Lets knock of this 'vibe' crap folks! LOL! From here on out I'm out of this one........I've given my thoughts on the matter. You know I'm normally in agreement with you, but I think the "vibe" consideration does have some merit. I've seen enough models with all the right parts that for various reasons just don't fit the TRaK aesthetic. Believe it or not, I do understand where you are coming from on this front Stu; but my problem is when someone's perception somehow outweighs proven history (via vintage magazines for example) and what is clearly outlined in the rules. If it can be proven to be traditional and allowed by the rules who has a right to say otherwise just because it doesn't fit what they think should be allowed; or because it goes against their idea of what this forum is about? It's the clash between these issues that really drives me nuts here; and has actually been sucking the fun out of it for me a bit lately. This is no one's problem but my own quite frankly. I will get along and not cause any headaches over this; so no one needs to worry about that! LOL! |
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Post by spex84 on Jan 21, 2018 14:06:03 GMT -5
I'm perfectly willing to compile the photos that are inspiring me (all verified 60s) with callouts to individual features. I love doing that kind of thing.
Re: the slicks: I so, so, so want to use these big fatties (and yes, they're MPC, impeccable eye Ed!)...but in anticipation of dissent, I have some narrower ones on standby (Pie Wagon or Garbage Truck perhaps?), and if I really have to, I can go to M&H slicks or AMT Blue Streaks, which are narrower again.
From what I can tell from my research, '69-70 was a major tipping point, where ultra-wide tires became available and the general proportions of T-buckets changed to something more cartoonish.
I'll probably build this with the narrower tires, comfortably in the 60s zone, and then when the contest is over quietly swap in the fat slicks as if was updated for 1970, just for my own shelf display.
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Post by krassandbernie on Jan 21, 2018 14:30:35 GMT -5
I'm perfectly willing to compile the photos that are inspiring me (all verified 60s) with callouts to individual features. I love doing that kind of thing. Re: the slicks: I so, so, so want to use these big fatties (and yes, they're MPC, impeccable eye Ed!)...but in anticipation of dissent, I have some narrower ones on standby (Pie Wagon or Garbage Truck perhaps?), and if I really have to, I can go to M&H slicks or AMT Blue Streaks, which are narrower again. From what I can tell from my research, '69-70 was a major tipping point, where ultra-wide tires became available and the general proportions of T-buckets changed to something more cartoonish. I'll probably build this with the narrower tires, comfortably in the 60s zone, and then when the contest is over quietly swap in the fat slicks as if was updated for 1970, just for my own shelf display. That is the way I would 'roll' Chris! LOL! Swap the big slicks back over after you've posted the finished photos on the forum. The Pie Wagon or Garbage Truck Monogram kits probably have the very same Goodyear Blue Streaks I mentioned above. |
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