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Post by BigPappaJ on Dec 18, 2019 17:52:31 GMT -5
I was wondering if these tires are TRaKable:  ![]()  Also, is the rear suspension in the Revell '32 Ford kit OK? If not, what will I have to change? Thanks |
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Post by Bernard Kron on Dec 18, 2019 18:47:06 GMT -5
IMHO the tires aren't TRaKable. Too wide and fat for the era. And the dirt track tread is an 80's "Ohio Look" thing. I love the Ohio Look, myself, and have even used the stance with more traditional rolling stock in TRaK builds, but I would say the massive dirt track rears are definitely outside the TRaK era.
Regarding the rear suspension, the Revell Deuces are such a basic modeling resource for traditional hot rodders that the convention here at TRaK is to "turn a blind idea" to the airbags. Strictly speaking the coilovers and traction bars have some precedents during the TRaK era and can be acceptable, but the airbags are really a no-no. In my case I have handled them in different ways at various times. If I'm really lazy I leave them and just paint them flat black and make sure they don't show in any photographs. In other cases I have whittled them down or substituted styrene rod to avail myself of the locating holes in the Revell chassis. And of course, in some cases, despite keeping the coilovers, I have removed the airbags entirely and left it to the coilovers themselves to hold the rear axle in place. In all cases I have made sure the airbags can't be readily seen and that seems to have passed muster. The ideal, of course, is to redo the suspension entirely with a more emphatically traditional setup, such as a buggy spring, which I have also done at various times.
BTW, we could have a similar discussion about the front suspension...
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Post by BigPappaJ on Dec 18, 2019 19:11:48 GMT -5
Thanks, Bernard. I was concerned that the tires would be too large, so I figured I would ask before buying anything. BTW, I've not heard of the Ohio Look.
And minimizing/hiding the air bags will be done.
Thanks
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Post by Bernard Kron on Dec 18, 2019 20:59:22 GMT -5
... I've not heard of the Ohio Look. ... The Revell 1/25 Deuce Roadster is their attempt at that style, but they totally blew the stance. All the better for us modelers to get it right, or to do away with the Look entirely. The Ohio Look is associated with the hot rods of Barry Lobeck here are a couple or relevant articles: Barry LobeckTypical "Ohio Look" roadster |
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Post by stingray on Dec 31, 2019 10:14:45 GMT -5
I think I remember B.B. himself stating that the iconic deuce series of kits minus the fake woodie one are acceptable. I have seen early builds back in the day straight from the box. Ford engine and all. Sure it's great to back date the suspension and all that but not everyone goes to the extent of some builders here. Build what you like but just as long as it looks trad.
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Post by BigPappaJ on Dec 31, 2019 15:56:54 GMT -5
Thanks, Ray. I have been researching what does/does not constitute a 50's/60's hot rod, so I can build TRAKable models.
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Post by skip on Jan 9, 2020 21:32:14 GMT -5
If you would like a good reference on what is TRAKable or not Andy Southard has authored several really great books, Hot Rods of the 50’s, Hot Rods of the 60’s, Hot Rods by Pete and Jake to name a few. These can be found used on eBay for usually half the cover price, I have almost the whole series and paid $2 to $3 bucks each through secondhand booksellers. These and other books like them will give you a good snapshot of what was running the streets for any given timeframe that you are trying to model. I also watch swap meets, Goodwill, and yard sales for these types of books as well. Magazine yearbooks are another great references as well they nail down by year the time period you’re duplicating. All of these books and magazines are full of ideas of what to build and many times give the technical methods of how to build it, like frame modifications like “Zee’ing” or even the methods Rodders used to get the look. Of course, there is Rodder’s Journal, which in my opinion is worth every cent of its cover price, back issues are available on their website as well as eBay. Just be careful purchasing Rodder’s Journal back issues off of eBay as they often sell for more than the publisher sells them for, ive got good deals on them on eBay though. Good Luck!
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