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Post by jeff on Apr 30, 2020 8:55:21 GMT -5
Everything is good by date, but the v12 is the question. I see a Mercedes gulling on the board now so I was wondering if this would fly? Picture removed Picture replaced for future reference of members
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Post by krassandbernie on Apr 30, 2020 10:22:03 GMT -5
Overall, I think it has more of a modern "Street Rodder" rat rod feel to it; but the photo I am posting here is clearly from back in the day of a truck with a very similar look minus the engine. We'll have to let others weigh in here; or Bob in particular. I'm not opposed to your truck; and do think it's neat; if not 'traditionally' traditional! LOL!
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Post by chepp on Apr 30, 2020 10:38:07 GMT -5
That's a good question. The guidelines say "...each model is built with the styling of the 1940s-1969. This means your model looks as if it could have been built up until 1969." So, presuming that the engine year is pre-1969, and it probably is, then it seems OK to me. Hot rodders were known for using whatever was available. Even if no one has built a rod with this engine in real life, I tend to favor the "...could have been built..." part of the guidelines. The multiple carbs and the headers really make it look traditional. I don't see this as any less appropriate than, say, a Lincoln V12 or similar engine.
I'm not comfortable with the super low pick-up bed, though. To me, that screams "rat rod." It is a "...could have been built..." pre-1969 thing but I associate it with a look that is too new for the traditional theme of this forum.
I'm not the one who decides, and I'm not saying whether I think this model is TRAKable. I'm just offering my opinions. It should be interesting to see comments from others.
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Post by cturner on Apr 30, 2020 11:12:35 GMT -5
This is JUST a thought...but I think the real car is more "traditional" than the model...maybe it IS the bed height that is making me lean that way. Just sayin...but..I DO LIKE the model too!
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Post by skip on Apr 30, 2020 11:44:27 GMT -5
While it does follow many of the elements of a Traditional Hot Rod. I think that it falls into the "Neo-Traditional" or even Rat Rod category in part due to a couple of its design elements. First the severe lowness of the bed coupled with the extreme Zee'ing of the rear frame horns. Second, not sure what the manufacture date of the V-12 (Ferrari ?) engine is, but it was not something I've seen in any of the Pre-1969 magazines and books documenting that period show.
Not to say that it couldn't have happened, I'm just saying that in my pretty extensive collection of Hot Rod, Rod & Custom, & various Little Pages I've not seen a Hot Rod running an "exotic" engine such as a V-12. I'm in agreement with Ed and Chepp, if it were a Hemi or Chevrolet engine and the extreme rear suspension modifications (frame horns higher than the bed rails), it would probably fit.
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Post by jeff on Apr 30, 2020 12:00:21 GMT -5
Agreed, more of a modern interpretation of traditional I guess. I retract it from consideration, thanks guys!
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Post by jeff on Apr 30, 2020 12:04:03 GMT -5
Ed, in that photo would the builder have shortened that frame and wheelbase or just the very bobbed bed? I like the look, and happen to have another body.
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Post by krassandbernie on Apr 30, 2020 20:54:50 GMT -5
Ed, in that photo would the builder have shortened that frame and wheelbase or just the very bobbed bed? I like the look, and happen to have another body. The wheelbase is clearly shortened on the 1:1 pickup I posted.........even if it were a '32 model year vs the later '33-'34. The bed was obviously bobbed as well; and the frame was z'd or re-arched.
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Post by krassandbernie on Apr 30, 2020 20:55:48 GMT -5
btw, you did not have to remove the photo you posted of your model. It shows others the example of what might not cut the mustard; and reasons for our discussion here.
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Post by krassandbernie on Apr 30, 2020 20:56:36 GMT -5
This is JUST a thought...but I think the real car is more "traditional" than the model...maybe it IS the bed height that is making me lean that way. Just sayin...but..I DO LIKE the model too! Yup, pretty much! LOL!
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Post by jeff on May 1, 2020 5:57:04 GMT -5
Ed, thanks for the info on the likely mods on that truck. I will reinsert the photo for future members reference.
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Post by krassandbernie on May 2, 2020 0:17:18 GMT -5
Ed, thanks for the info on the likely mods on that truck. I will reinsert the photo for future members reference. Sure thing!
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