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Post by Mikael dBW on Sept 18, 2020 5:57:53 GMT -5
I have had the Li´l John Butteras T-Ford chassi laying around for years, since the body had been used for another project. Time to do something about it. It´s a chassi with good roadholding with a Jaguar rearend and IFS up front. Then it should be fit with some wide tires in all corners and real bucket seats. Body comes from the MPC/AMT ´29 A-Ford Woody/Pickup. I shortened the bed and painted it with Testors Lime Gold flake. Mikael    |
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Post by cturner on Sept 18, 2020 8:08:47 GMT -5
That's just kinda cute!
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Post by Duane on Sept 18, 2020 22:13:17 GMT -5
nice
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Post by falconwagon on Sept 19, 2020 7:22:34 GMT -5
Nice but the wheels and tires are too new looking for my taste.
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Post by stingray on Sept 19, 2020 7:28:01 GMT -5
I agree. I like it but the style is way too new.
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Post by skip on Sept 19, 2020 10:17:23 GMT -5
Nice but the wheels and tires are too new looking for my taste. Point 1.) Wheels: Yes and No, Truespoke type wire wheels were available in the mid to late ‘60’s, there were a few Show Type Hot Rods wearing them. They were just not that common. More common wires on Rods &Customs we’re Buick Rivera as well as a straight spoked Kelsey Hayes wire wheel. Just as were XKE Jag rear ends, at least one tube type IFS car. (Probably Dan Woods.) This would likely be a late ‘60’s blur almost between the ‘70’s builder pushing the envelope of Hot Rodding then. Tires, occasionally show cars would show up wearing wider Indy type tires which weren’t that available for street use, they were wide and showed though! I’ve seen more than one car in HRM with Indy tires supposedly running on the street. We also thought there was a Hot Rod on every corner in California, according to HRM as well! Point 2.) Flavor / Appearance: For the most part this A-Bucket does fit what would have been a rather High End, High Dollar show only or mostly show with a little go Hot Rod. Point 3.) I believe that we are speaking of the work of a rather new member; so how about let’s take a deep breath and filter it through brand new guys eyes to TRAK. Next time, as there are in-progress shots we can take the time to gently educate our new student to our historical point of view. Hopefully we don’t come off so stodgy that we sound like a bunch of hot rod rivet counters, actually I hope we never get to that point because we will stop attracting new blood. Let’s try to educate when and where there are “Teachable Moments”, not sure when some brand new member presents their first model is a teachable moment. Nice Little A-Bucket, it loosely represents the pre-1969 Era of Hot Rodding. Clean build, (without a billet doo dads). Would look right at home at a National Level Car Show, like L.A., Portland, Seattle and other large shows of the time. Agree that it’s just plain a cute little car that I could see someone like Dan Woods maybe a handful of others building. Paint colors definitely around during the ‘60’s, just read an article in a 1959 Rodding and Restyling where they were talking pearls, lime Pearl Was a color mentioned by none other than George Barris. $62.95 cash or money order would buy you, 2 gallons of pearl base and pearl powders, 1 gallon of silver, gold Base (under coating) plus the metallic powders, 1 gallon of clear finish and a handful of other stuff to make a “complete kit”. Just didn’t come with an experienced painter to apply the tricky finish for the novice painter. *Oops, I didn’t recognize the member name and thought we were talking a first effort, this member has submitted more than a handful of TRAKable cars in the past so he knows our formula. |
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Post by Mikael dBW on Sept 20, 2020 10:08:02 GMT -5
Sorry guys, my mistake to enter a too new rod! I haven´t built a rod in years so I guess that I was just too happy to have something to show off that I forgot the rules. Or should I blame it on old age? Give me a moment and I will remove the post.
/Mikael
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Post by cturner on Sept 20, 2020 13:16:51 GMT -5
Don't worry about it Mikael..we all liked it. Use old age...more people forgive when you say that! LOL
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Post by dodgefever on Sept 20, 2020 14:08:26 GMT -5
Looks good to me, other than the low profile tyres.  |
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Post by skip on Sept 20, 2020 15:21:27 GMT -5
Sorry guys, my mistake to enter a too new rod! I haven´t built a rod in years so I guess that I was just too happy to have something to show off that I forgot the rules. Or should I blame it on old age? Give me a moment and I will remove the post. /Mikael Not a problem, or I wouldn't have stuck up for your Nice Little Hot Rod in the first place. Like I said, it could have been based on the work of a couple Hot Rod / Show Car Hot Rod builders. I think it's a cool little hot rod! |
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Post by robtrat on Sept 20, 2020 17:08:13 GMT -5
I'm with Stu, Other than the Rubber it could mid/late 60s. State of the art for it's time. Well done.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 17:52:44 GMT -5
Different tires, rims & seats would make it perfectly Trakable. It's not that the wire wheels are wrong because they're wire wheels, they're too big in diameter, (& the sidewall of the tires too small), as well as width to fit. The aspect ratio of them is wrong for the era With those changes. it would slot perfectly into a circa 67-69 rod style, as they were in transition to the street rod style at that time. Even the IFS & IRS slot nicely into the late 60s era of rods.
Still, it is a very nicely built model & looks sharp!
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Post by Mr. Metallic on Sept 21, 2020 8:21:07 GMT -5
Sorry guys, my mistake to enter a too new rod! I haven´t built a rod in years so I guess that I was just too happy to have something to show off that I forgot the rules. Or should I blame it on old age? Give me a moment and I will remove the post. /Mikael First of all, let me start off by saying thank you for taking the time to share your model. With the post content down lately it's nice to have something new to look at. Second, your model is a cool build. Nicely done kitbashing. While most of the build places it at the very top end of our allowable date range for this board, it's the low profile tires that push it into not-TRaK able for me. I have moved it into the "Is this TRaKable" section so people can still see it here and understand what sets it apart from what is generally allowed here. if another mod wants to restore it back to the main board, go ahead. Mikael, we are glad to have you here. Please keep sharing, and feel free to ask questions. |
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Post by spex84 on Sept 21, 2020 21:48:42 GMT -5
Lots of 60s-style stuff going on in this model, and I appreciate those features! The lime gold and jag suspension really does make it seem late 60s. Agree on the wheels/tires (wheel diameter too large, tires too new and low-profile) and the red seatbelts being un-TRAK-able. Slap some Firestone Indy tires on there, with 15" wheels and it would totally fit. The Jag suspension is looked at with suspicion on TRAK (too '70s) but I dig it  |
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Post by Mr. Metallic on Sept 22, 2020 7:01:31 GMT -5
I did a little research, so I thought it appropriate to share. The "Jag" independent rear suspension was available on the new for 1961 E type. It was probably pretty rare to be used on hot rods during the 60's, but it was out there. Yes, it became a very 70's/80's design element, but I love the exposed mechanicals of this setup, especially with the "cage" removed/replaced.  The Tognotti T, as manufactured in kit form by MPC in 64, featured a independent rear suspension inspired by the Jag rear end (but remarkably based on a 55 Chevy rear end  )  |
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