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Post by spex84 on Nov 26, 2020 12:00:39 GMT -5
Hey all, I have a project that I was going to post, but I realize it's probably bumping up against the cutoff date for TRAK, style-wise. Here's the plan: -AMT '53 PU, shortened bed, chopped. -custom grille made of a '48 Ford with early-mid 60s Ford/Merc style headlight bezels (the Chrysler grille and canted quads are going on another '53 project that I'll detail later).
-Polyglas front tires, Blue Streak slicks out back -Cragar 5-spoke chrome wheels -427 Ford mill possibly with Webers, maybe blown. -side pipes -bed-mounted fuel tank with "Ford" script (from Ala Kart) -orange/brown metallic paint -diamond-quilted interior ( and possibly tailgate cover/tonneau cover) -possible nerf bars and '29 Ford "Ford"-script step plates for a bit of that resto-rod flavor. Taken together, even though the parts are all 40s-mid 60s, the overall look would be at home in the early 70s. I'm claiming the truck could exist in 1967. What do you think? Trakable?  |
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Post by dodgefever on Nov 26, 2020 12:20:32 GMT -5
Seems fine to me.
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Post by Duane on Nov 26, 2020 23:14:24 GMT -5
looks,and sounds TRaK-able to me !
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Post by krassandbernie on Nov 27, 2020 21:56:11 GMT -5
I am 100% behind this being TRAKable! Anyone have a problem with this I'll fist fight ya! LOL! I've been saying for years (YEARS) that when it comes to the late '60's era stuff ('67-'69); hardly anyone goes near it. At best, you'll see some drag cars from this time frame; but hot rods and mild customs get crapped on! It's by far the coolest in my book due to the street cars and hot rods getting faster (like the track cars); and not as goofy as where the '70's rods and customs were headed. White walls were out, mag wheels were in, candy and metal flake paint was hot, and so were big engines with lots of horse power! Keep in mind this was the time frame when muscle cars were HOT; cheap, and plentiful. Many made it to the junk yards quick due to young driver's who couldn't handle the horse power. Therefore, many muscle car drive trains made it into hot rods. Many guys wanted to update their rods or keep up with the street racing scene without buying a 'cookie cutter' muscle car. Also, many old hot V8s were now cheaper to buy due to guys with money swapping them out for the newer "LS" engines from the muscle cars. Yet, everyone seems to be hung up on the '40's to early '60's era builds. I really feel like a man without a country! LOL!
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Post by RodBurNeR on Nov 28, 2020 0:44:44 GMT -5
I am 100% behind this being TRAKable! Anyone have a problem with this I'll fist fight ya! LOL! I've been saying for years (YEARS) that when it comes to the late '60's era stuff ('67-'69); hardly anyone goes near it. At best, you'll see some drag cars from this time frame; but hot rods and mild customs get crapped on! It's by far the coolest in my book due to the street cars and hot rods getting faster (like the track cars); and not as goofy as the where the '70's rods and customs were headed. White walls were out, mag wheels were in, candy and metal flake paint was hot, and so were big engines with lots of horse power! Keep in mind this was the time frame when muscle cars were HOT; cheap, and plentiful. Many made it to the junk yards quick due to young driver's who couldn't handle the horse power. Therefore, many muscle car drive trains made it into hot rods. Many guys wanted to update their rods or keep up with the street racing scene without buying a 'cookie cutter' muscle car. Also, many old hot V8s were now cheaper to buy due to guys with money swapping them out for the newer "LS" engines from the muscle cars. Yet, everyone seems to be hung up on the '40's to early '60's era builds. I really feel like a man without a country! LOL! going with this decision, I have seen Ed's knuckles and with this corona shit going around, who KNOWS what might happen! |
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Post by krassandbernie on Nov 28, 2020 1:45:00 GMT -5
I am 100% behind this being TRAKable! Anyone have a problem with this I'll fist fight ya! LOL! I've been saying for years (YEARS) that when it comes to the late '60's era stuff ('67-'69); hardly anyone goes near it. At best, you'll see some drag cars from this time frame; but hot rods and mild customs get crapped on! It's by far the coolest in my book due to the street cars and hot rods getting faster (like the track cars); and not as goofy as the where the '70's rods and customs were headed. White walls were out, mag wheels were in, candy and metal flake paint was hot, and so were big engines with lots of horse power! Keep in mind this was the time frame when muscle cars were HOT; cheap, and plentiful. Many made it to the junk yards quick due to young driver's who couldn't handle the horse power. Therefore, many muscle car drive trains made it into hot rods. Many guys wanted to update their rods or keep up with the street racing scene without buying a 'cookie cutter' muscle car. Also, many old hot V8s were now cheaper to buy due to guys with money swapping them out for the newer "LS" engines from the muscle cars. Yet, everyone seems to be hung up on the '40's to early '60's era builds. I really feel like a man without a country! LOL! going with this decision, I have seen Ed's knuckles and with this corona shit going around, who KNOWS what might happen! Whaddya say'n? I might turn green and rip my shirt off or something?! Fluck smash! LOL! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2020 2:21:38 GMT -5
Just for the record I agree with Ed!
That said, I understand why the question was raised by the OP. The style he's going after can easily look/feel "dated" or "wrong" for the era he's shooting for without careful consideration of the parts used. Couple that with the chance of using "too new" parts without meaning to & there's another potential issue.
That era is one that was really in flux for customs & rods, especially the former, as they fell out of favor, so it can be hard to properly pin down. That may be one reason we see so few models from that era here at Trak.
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Post by krassandbernie on Nov 28, 2020 12:43:38 GMT -5
Just for the record I agree with Ed! That said, I understand why the question was raised by the OP. The style he's going after can easily look/feel "dated" or "wrong" for the era he's shooting for without careful consideration of the parts used. Couple that with the chance of using "too new" parts without meaning to & there's another potential issue. That era is one that was really in flux for customs & rods, especially the former, as they fell out of favor, so it can be hard to properly pin down. That may be one reason we see so few models from that era here at Trak. That may be partially so; but I tend to think it's a case of monkey see, monkey do. Most builders are not as hard core traditionalist like I am; and sort of just go with what is trendy......even when it comes to building hot rod and custom models...........and that seems to revolve around the late '50's to early '60's styled builds; not the late '60's. The closest area of model building that has come to building late '60's era cars would be the gasser boom (which started with the 1:1 cars) around 20 years ago; and is still going fairly strong now. That obviously boosted the interest in the model car hobby for this genre and type of models being built. But, it did not go much beyond the gassers into the hot rods and customs type builds from what I've seen. It's still either '50s/'60's era builds or modern 'hot wheels' (puke in your mouth) retro reality west coast T.V. transformation inspired builds of hot rods and customs dripping with candy and metal flake, modern drive trains, and big wheels...........I just threw up in my mouth a little again....excuse me. I need to go thumb through some late '60's "Popular Hot Rodding" magazines to settle my stomach! |
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Post by skip on Nov 29, 2020 2:15:15 GMT -5
Just for the record I agree with Ed! That said, I understand why the question was raised by the OP. The style he's going after can easily look/feel "dated" or "wrong" for the era he's shooting for without careful consideration of the parts used. Couple that with the chance of using "too new" parts without meaning to & there's another potential issue. That era is one that was really in flux for customs & rods, especially the former, as they fell out of favor, so it can be hard to properly pin down. That may be one reason we see so few models from that era here at Trak. That may be partially so; but I tend to think it's a case of monkey see, monkey do. Most builders are not as hard core traditionalist like I am; and sort of just go with what is trendy......even when it comes to building hot rod and custom models...........and that seems to revolve around the late '50's to early '60's styled builds; not the late '60's. The closest area of model building that has come to building late '60's era cars would be the gasser boom (which started with the 1:1 cars) around 20 years ago; and is still going fairly strong now. That obviously boosted the interest in the model car hobby for this genre and type of models being built. But, it did not go much beyond the gassers into the hot rods and customs type builds from what I've seen. It's still either '50s/'60's era builds or modern 'hot wheels' (puke in your mouth) retro reality west coast T.V. transformation inspired builds of hot rods and customs dripping with candy and metal flake, modern drive trains, and big wheels...........I just threw up in my mouth a little again....excuse me. I need to go thumb through some late '60's "Popular Hot Rodding" magazines to settle my stomach! For the record I’m agreeing too! You can put yer purse away there Ed, don’t go whompin’ anyone with that overnight sized bag you’re totin’ around here! LoL! Who knows Ed might turn really green and go on the attack... things are getting scary around here,,,, maybe I need to go over to that other board where fist fighting’ spitting’ and peeing matches are the norm! LoL! Who ignited Mr. Calm Ed, too much turkey or what!! LoL! They make good meds for that kind of behavior, I know! LoL! |
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Post by dodgefever on Nov 29, 2020 4:38:02 GMT -5
modern 'hot wheels' (puke in your mouth) retro reality west coast T.V. transformation inspired builds of hot rods and customs dripping with candy and metal flake, modern drive trains, and big wheels...........I just threw up in my mouth a little again....excuse me. I need to go thumb through some late '60's "Popular Hot Rodding" magazines to settle my stomach! I've seen some of those appalling Kinding shows on Discovery... first thing they do with any old car is throw away the chassis and replace it with a generic box section "CHA-sea", LS motor and airbags. Then they complain that things don't fit. You threw away a chassis that was made for it, you idiot!  Back on topic, perhaps we could follow the gasser thread with one for late '60s style builds? |
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Post by skip on Nov 29, 2020 10:15:19 GMT -5
Love that chopped top, ‘53 - ‘55 F100’s aren’t the easiest to chop and make it look proportional without splitting the lid in four sections just like you did.
Incidentally that’s the same approach used to chop VW Bugs to make them come look like the chop was planned, to me a chopped VW never looks “right” it just looks like it was planned that way from the start.. I assisted in the chop of a full sized VW back in the late ‘70’s, probably the A-number-one most difficult top chop I’ve ever dealt with,,, but that’s really way off subject!
On the subject of Webber Carburetors, about mid-65 is the earliest Hot Rod that I remember seeing in print with four Webber carbs on the engine. I believe they probably began showing up on the car show circuit and then Hot Rods and Street oriented Customs shortly after the Shelby Cobras used them, they are an amazingly cool looking, expensive, tuneable carburetor that went out of “style”! I believe that there was a Model A Roadster peek up running a small block Ford that appeared with the LA Roadsters in print more than once in the pre-69 years. Probably a definitive way of checking aftermarket availability by year would be to check through the older Intake manifold manufacturers catalogs, they gotta be online somewhere. I still think they were an available carburetor, though for most (average) Hot Rodder’s were out of price range. Plus getting them dialed in correctly was usually relegated to a shop that dealt with sporty type cars, which mixed with Hot Rods like oil and water!
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Post by spex84 on Nov 29, 2020 12:30:29 GMT -5
Thanks Skip. Part of the reason I'm going late 60s with this build is that the roof has a slight forward rake that was unintended...I cut it square, but in the process of firmly pressing the pieces into place using liberal amounts of liquid cement, the A pillars ended up a hair shorter than they should have been. If I can figure out how to modify the chop without ruining the previous work, I might give it a shot. Otherwise, it will have a stanky forward rake that is consistent with late-60s bad taste  *edit* I'm confident the Webers are kosher, based on previous research into old photos and articles. I think I actually have ref pics of the LA roadsters RPU you speak of. Weber IDA..I scratchbuilt one with the intention of casting it, but I built it sliiiightly oversize, so I might try and 3D model and print some instead. |
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Post by RodBurNeR on Nov 29, 2020 13:04:32 GMT -5
going with this decision, I have seen Ed's knuckles and with this corona shit going around, who KNOWS what might happen! Whaddya say'n? I might turn green and rip my shirt off or something?! Fluck smash! LOL! lmao ! |
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Post by krassandbernie on Nov 29, 2020 17:24:49 GMT -5
Thanks Skip. Part of the reason I'm going late 60s with this build is that the roof has a slight forward rake that was unintended...I cut it square, but in the process of firmly pressing the pieces into place using liberal amounts of liquid cement, the A pillars ended up a hair shorter than they should have been. If I can figure out how to modify the chop without ruining the previous work, I might give it a shot. Otherwise, it will have a stanky forward rake that is consistent with late-60s bad taste *edit* I'm confident the Webers are kosher, based on previous research into old photos and articles. I think I actually have ref pics of the LA roadsters RPU you speak of. Weber IDA..I scratchbuilt one with the intention of casting it, but I built it sliiiightly oversize, so I might try and 3D model and print some instead. I don't see anything wrong with the chop! Most chops look 'tougher' with just a wee bit more taken out of the front pillars.......that is, in the case the side window openings would have been parallel (top to bottom) with a chop that was equal front to back. I don't much care for heavily raked chops; but this one does not exhibit that to my eye. |
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Post by lo51merc on Nov 29, 2020 18:27:40 GMT -5
Way (wayyyyy) back in 64 or 65, I chopped an AMT 34 pickup with a definite rake. I must have gotten the idea somewhere. Yours looks nice to me!
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