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Post by Skullo on Apr 11, 2022 12:56:56 GMT -5
I think we need to determine if an out of box build of this kit is trackable. It is based on a modern nostalgia gasser. It has front disc brakes that were available and used on some cars. A dual master cylinder that was used sometimes. To me the only real issue is the electric fan and standard radiator. I brought the issue up in a thread I commented in 41chevys build thread. link <<< much info here in this thread This not meant to contest his build of a replica funny car using the nova gasser kit. I mentioned I have a complete out of box build of the gasser complete and did not consider it of the trakable era due to the electric fan. I believe in the past it has been said "don't show us the modern features and we can live with it". I have no intention to remove the electric fan so I can post it on trak. I have another build in progress that will probably end up trackable and also be considered a funny car. I just think we need a ruling on this highly popular kit.
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Post by Bernard Kron on Apr 11, 2022 18:54:11 GMT -5
IMHO, given the molded-in electric fans on such models as the Stacey David version of the Revell Deuce (at least on the earlier versions it was optional) and, IIRC, on the Revell '29/'30 Ford Roadster/Coupe , if it's not shown then you'll be just fine. It's certainly no more egregious than the countless air-bagged coil-over Revell Deuces posted here over the years... The Moebius Nova Gasser, otherwise, seems to display TRaKable no problem.
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Post by 41chevy on Apr 11, 2022 22:42:52 GMT -5
The fan is a separate part. As for the disc brake Bell Auto sold Airhart disc brake kits in 1963, Crager in 1965-6, dual masters were used from the 1965 Ramblers for an early line lock / roll control. What is not TRAKable is the post 1970 wheelie bars. Paul
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Post by Mr. Metallic on Apr 12, 2022 5:43:26 GMT -5
The fan is a separate part. As for the disc brake Bell Auto sold Airhart disc brake kits in 1963, Crager in 1965-6, dual masters were used from the 1965 Ramblers for an early line lock / roll control. What is not TRAKable is the post 1970 wheelie bars. Paul Thank you for illuminating us Paul. Can the wheelie bars be modified to be more mid-60's correct, or do they just need to be replaced outright?
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Post by 41chevy on Apr 12, 2022 11:38:37 GMT -5
The fan is a separate part. As for the disc brake Bell Auto sold Airhart disc brake kits in 1963, Crager in 1965-6, dual masters were used from the 1965 Ramblers for an early line lock / roll control. What is not TRAKable is the post 1970 wheelie bars. Paul Thank you for illuminating us Paul. Can the wheelie bars be modified to be more mid-60's correct, or do they just need to be replaced outright?
I would replace them. They are copies of late 70's bolt in bars. Here are a few period correct choices. Also possible not to run any wheelie bars at all as many did not in the middle gasser classes and early /FX and SS/X class
My 55 Chevy bars installed originally in 1966 and going on a newer diff.
Box Nova
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Post by 41chevy on Apr 12, 2022 11:45:54 GMT -5
THe radiator on the Gasser Nova is a puzzle. A stock radiator support will not work with the Bill Thomas conversion. One more issue , if you eliminate the rad on the Nova, it will move it into one of three classes, Altered, -/FX or S/XS
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Post by Mr. Metallic on Apr 12, 2022 12:15:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Paul. I'll have to dig through my parts box, or try to come up with something like this. Or like you said, just leave them off completely.
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Post by skip on Apr 14, 2022 10:50:57 GMT -5
Good questions, great answers. Yes, from what I've seen the Mobius 1965 Nova is a modern-day Nostalgia Gasser at heart. That said, if the builder wants to make it TRAKable then it probably only takes a few parts replacements / substitutions for the Nova to be TRAKable. When I build my first, that will be my approach to it. Not only because I prefer the pre-69 Gassers it's the fact that I see things going into the newer Nostalgia Gassers that wouldn't fly even before NHRA dropped the Gas Classes.
**Comment on the AMT Rat Packer "Funny Car" Nova, it's more of a no holds barred A/FX or Altered or an out and out Match-Racer which fell into almost no class in particular. Because of its Altered Wheelbase it would certainly move out of the Gas Class and into the Altered Classes at the very least. The full non-manufacturer "Tube Chassis" was not allowed in the Gas classes either even up to '73/'73 racing seasons. The term "Funny Car" was first tagged onto the A/FX Cars, because they "looked funny" at least that's according to what I have read in my now old and musty Hot Rod, Pop-Rod, and even Rod and Custom magazines (and others).**
A quick peruse through either Larry Davis' Gasser Wars or Hart's Drag Racing Gassers Photo Archive will show no altered wheelbase Gassers, they weren't allowed by the rules to the day NHRA killed the Gassers and made them "Bracket Racers" at best. When the NHRA Gas class ended, I pretty much lost interest in following them. Although a few of the really high-end Gassers evolved into the Pro Sportsman, then Pro-Mod Classes in time and pretty much pushing the Rules ahead of themselves. They were interesting, but they sure weren't Gassers. The '55 & '57 Revell (and others,) "Pro Sportsman" cars represent this. Those cars are way, way out of the realm of TRAK's parameters by light years! In many ways they represent the then latest Pro-Stock technology with a vintage type body, they are Pro Class all the way, nothing "Sportsman" about it!
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