1929 Model T Pickup

[Richard]

Recently moved from the bench to the shelf is this parts box build that was inspired by an article in Scale Auto. 

[skip]

Richard, Nice Job! Has all the "usual suspect" parts to make a cool Gow Job,
maybe even a further along to finish car. Lots of these things were a progressive
build-n-drive while you're at it affairs, they modified along the way as the parts
became available.

Like the detailing on the engine, not too jazzy and all shiny, just the right amount
of sheen to make it look right. The valve covers and intake have that aluminum look
to make them look right to the viewers eyes. Everything that should be there is in
place, along with the stripped stuff that's not to tell the story of your in progress
early Hot Rod. What's not to like!

[Richard]

Thank you very much Skip. I was watching quite a few videos on the TROG events in Wildwood NJ while building this. Bare bones vintage hot rods with little shine and nothing that's not needed to go fast. I'm working up to doing a weathered rod with lots of patina. I was wondering isn't this engine a Riley 4 port conversion that should have 4 exhaust pipes not 2?

[lo51merc]

It's a neat little car but I was also curious about the 2 pipe exhaust.

[skip]

If you couldn't tell, I love the early Model T and Model A Speedsters and the innovation
the early Hot Roders came up with to make these little engines go really fast. Both of
the Model T and Model A engines have a rich racing history on the dirt and paved oval
tracks as well as the early Indy 500 races. So there is probably more information out
there on the Ford Four Bangers than one would have the time to model!

The information that I have come across on the innerweb indicates there were 2, 4-port
and even crossflow Riley head configurations. I believe the AMT Riley is a 2-Port and the
Revell is a really good representation of a Riley 4-Port. With some good photo documentation,
one can take either of those two heads and come up with something looking like a crossflow head.
Don't forget the little Model T engine either, there were likely almost as many flathead and
overhead valve setups for the Model T engines as there were for the Model A engines, maybe more.

Notice that the exhaust ports on the Revell Riley pretty much look like they align with
say a small block Chevy exhaust port with maybe a slight tweaking, this opens up header
possibilities. Norm Veber / Replicas & Miniatures of Maryland has a couple header setups
for the Revell engine usually in his catalog.

I have seen a Tim Boyd article where he took two of the AMT pipe sets and used them on
the AMT or Revell engine, staggering the pipes to meet the ports on the head. (I think the
Tim Boyd article has the Blue Model A TROG Coupe on the cover of Scale Auto.)

Dennis did a rather convincing, "what-if" Banger Motor with an Ardun head that he used in
a vintage looking dragster. It looked like it could have been, especially with the usual
Dennis detailing to it. So, do a search on here to see that one.

Almost forgot to include the AMT '27 T Touring (Police Car), has a decent Frontenac, Fronty
dual overhead cam setup for the Model T engine which is a close enough size that it could
easily be placed on the Model A block for another entirely different possibility. Fronty
heads, developed by the Chevrolet Brothers have kind of an "Offenhauser look" to them, just
had a racy out of the box look.

Include search terms like, Model T or Model A Speedsters, Overhead Valve Conversions for
Model T or Model A, Riley heads, Cragar heads, Roof heads, Fronty Fords, Fast Fords...
This alone should bring up a slew of ideas for your banger motors.

Have fun and run with it!

[lo51merc]

Wow, nice info. Thanks for posting it.

[Richard]

I agree. Thanks for the info.

[Dave from Pleasanton]

Just about perfect Richard. I was going to reply about the Riley heads but life got in the way. Really like the park bench style seat. Really fits the build style.

[Richard]

Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure what to use for the seat then I found that in the AMT '23 Depot Hack and I thought YES it needs this.