30 ford early iron

[lizzard62]

How about these rims ? OK?

[Jody Michielsen]

I am kinda new to this, but I think I may know the answere, rims OK, tires questionable. I would not reply myself and let the authorities answere, but I wanted to ask one thing. Why do you have the rims on the wrong ends? You have the rear rims in the front and the front rims in the back. Now, if you think I am crazy since the rear rims have to be the rear rims because they are deeper and the front ones have to be the front because they are shallow, I will let you know the Reason why I say this. On the back, the hubs would be flat at the axle ends. On the front you need to allow room for the spindles. So the front rims would have a little cap on them to cover the end of the spindle. this is one of those many little oopsies that the manufacturers overlooked or did not realize. if you look in this thread from the HAMB, you will see what I am talking about when the frame is adorned with the wheels both steelies and halibrands. Thanks.
www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104314

[ddlova]

pretty much says 70's hot/street rod to me and i think that's when the Early Iron kits hit the market anyway.

i have a huge interest in that era of hot rods and street rods so don't get me wrong by saying what i did. the cut-off here is '68-'69 i believe so this style of car would fall out of what's acceptable to be posted.

[Duane]

David,
take the rims off, replace em
with older slots or steelies and
caps or spiders and fat whites
and ya got it !!!!!

[volvo544special65]

I'm maybe not the one that should open my mouth but I saw a brochure pic of a 1969 Cougar which had RWL tyres so they must have been around pre 1970, even if they may be a very close call, and slot mags were around before 1970 too so I can't see why not?

If you want everyone to run steelies and wide whites it may be better to change the cutoff year to something earlier (but I hope not since I am satisfied with the way it is now).

[ddlova]

because the overall look and style of the build is 70's street rod in my opinion. the wide white letter tires and slotted mags, or other wheels were a trend of 70's rodding, not 60's.

no need to take apart anything here and redo it, this is a cool hot rod! it just doesn't fit within the limit set here by Bob.

[volvo544special65]

To be honest, I both agree and disagree with you...

Of course this is just my opinion, and not necessary the only truth, and again, Bob has the final say so just take this as an input.

But yes, I agree that it is a quite "1970-ish" looking wheel combo.

On the other hand, the 70s didn't just grow up from nothing at all over a night, it evolved from...the 60s.

As far as I can see, because the stuff was available back then, it could as well have been a very late 1960s build, and because of that, it could barely slip into here...

If anyone would have been into building a hot rod in 1969, he would probably have used what was hot back then, which had started to turn towards RWL tyres and slot mags. Nobody would have cared about any "tradition" or "old school" back then, crossplies with wide whites would just have been seen as...boring and ancient, compared to belted rwl tyres.

Of course, I was not around back then and I can't say that I am 100% right but that is just some philosophical thoughts I got.

And I leave the final decision to mr Black, but I guess that input is never wrong?

[Deleted]

Negative. The wheel and tire combo has 1975 written all over it. JMHO.

[krassandbernie]

Personally, I see nothing wrong with the tire/wheel combo as they were around by '68/'69. It's everybody's perceived notion that they are a '70's trend.......with understandable reason. They just became extremely popular by the early '70's.......took a few years to start popping up on all of the rods....just like everything else...but again, the trend started in the late sixties....just look at the Hot Rod and Car Craft annuals. The cut off for this board is '69. Stuff like this is the reason why we don't see many late sixties builds posted.

[fletch]

Guess you all know what I think of the debate!!!!!!!!!!

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Jan 23, 2011 13:29:52 GMT -5 krassandbernie said:

Personally, I see nothing wrong with the tire/wheel combo as they were around by '68/'69. It's everybody's perceived notion that they are a '70's trend.......with understandable reason. They just became extremely popular by the early '70's....took a few years to start popping up on all of the rods....just like everything else...but again, the trend started in the late sixties....just look at the Hot Rod and Car Craft annuals. The cut off for this board is '69. Stuff like this is the reason why we don't see many late sixties builds posted.

Ed is correct, the wheels and tires were available by 68/69, and things do take a bit to catch on, thats why they are seen mostly on 70's rods. The Cut off year here is 1969. The wheels and tires fit just fine, just not as common, but were around.

[RodBurNeR]

They were around, but the question is... are they traditional? yes, trad for the time period they were used on hot rods. Were they used on 60's rods? This has a 70's feel to me.

[krassandbernie]

I guess the bigger question is do they scream non-traditional (like Centerlines do) and possibly confuse someone new to the board? Personally, I think not. Most people look at slots and think, 'traditional'...........and we all know that white lettered tires were around and popular in the late sixties. I think a lot of guys on this board are stuck in an 'early years only' traditional mind set......not attacking anyone here.......just an observation is all. Again, look at the cars (rods) that were appearing in the main hot rodding mags from the late sixties and you will undoubtedly find this style wheel/tire being utilized on some of the featured rides. So, how this makes someone 'feel' is irrelevant I suppose.....no offense........really!

[fletch]

Jan 22, 2011 12:11:14 GMT -5 Jody Michielsen said:

Why do you have the rims on the wrong ends? You have the rear rims in the front and the front rims in the back. Now, if you think I am crazy since the rear rims have to be the rear rims because they are deeper and the front ones have to be the front because they are shallow, I will let you know the Reason why I say this. On the back, the hubs would be flat at the axle ends. On the front you need to allow room for the spindles. So the front rims would have a little cap on them to cover the end of the spindle. this is one of those many little oopsies that the manufacturers overlooked or did not realize. if you look in this thread from the HAMB, you will see what I am talking about when the frame is adorned with the wheels both steelies and halibrands. Thanks.
www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104314

Jody, this is the reason, that so called experts on HAMB can't always be relied upon as accurate. I had these style of wheels on my '67 Cougar and guess what, both front and rear wheels had caps in them. The caps are purely there to finish the look of the wheel, so the model companies were not incorrect to put the caps on the rear wheels in their kits. Yes there were solid plates available for them, they were an option when I bought the wheels. So, don't assume that everything you see on HAMB is right. It may be right in their limited knowledge but is not always 100% correct. Just an FYI.

[dodgefever]

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